Hello, everyone one I just wanted to give my 2 cents about the new hunter subclass (being an avid hunter) and bring up some points to show to those who think it may seem a little weak, and wouldn't be useful in PVP Here is the link to the skill trees for all the abilities here http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3a3w7w/new_subclass_perks/ (thank you That halo dude for starting the thread with the original link above) Now right now we don't know exactly how all the abilities work or what the other 2 modifiers for the Shadow Shot are, which could make it even more deadly. Now you may think it just slows and suppresses enemies only useful when its Enemies are together But you may overlook something [b] It suppresses them[/b] Now the suppressed debuff works like this [quote]it stops guardians from using any abilities whether its jumping abilities or melee abilities or their supers and if they are in mid super when the (grenade from titan or Shadow shot) hits them it'll force them out of their super. [/quote] The Shadow Shot is the ultimate counter super Fellow hunter using Golden Gun or Arc Blade? Not anymore New warlock or titan super coming towards you? Nope, they're suppressed. Also from the gameplay it looks like it fires instantly so no deployment time or super running out. It can be used offensively as well with the perk, Rapid Shot: [quote]after firing your initial Shadow shot arrow, [b]you may fire up to two explosive arrows[/b] in quick succession.[/quote] Basically allowing you to do damage with your super and kill anything ensnared The melee, Smoke seems a little... odd but still useful and powerful coupled with envenomed poisoning enemies when within its cloud. Anyway we still need to actually use the subclass, but just from the perks it seems pretty powerful and not really that weak.