I agree with you a lot on the forums, but I think thorn is OP because all it takes is 3 non headshots to kill, or just 2 headshots excluding people wearing the ram. I don't think thorn needs a damage nerf, but maybe it needs a ROF NERF, range nerf, or a DOT nerf. Many people suggest oh use TLW or red death but the problem is that you almost [i]have to use those weapons[/i] to compete with thorn, so that's while I feel people think it's OP.