I find it hard to believe that people still don't see that releasing the full details of the entry level collectors edition [b]before[/b] releasing the details of the Founders pack was nothing more than a cynical PR move to hype the community. Which you all fell for hook line and sinker - including the supposedly professional reporters in games journalism. (oh wow, i typed "professional reporters" with a straight face). This "idea to appease the crowd" is simply the details of the Founders pack that they have been trolling you with by withholding. Nothing new. Nothing last minute. Not put together in a panicked response. Just details they were always going to give, at the point in the time line when they planned to give them. All through the Destiny build up and releases they have maintained this habit of long waits and carefully parcelled up information drops. I doubt if they will break that habit because so far it has been a highly successful method to drive interest and sales.