[b][UPDATE][/b] [b]We have 400+ votes supporting (currently almost 70% agree) but few likes/upvotes, remember to like the thread to help raise awareness. [/b] I have provided a link to 2 videos for the aware and unaware to watch below, they are brutally accruate if you can take the time to watch, Short video <5min [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etSLbQPzT4o[/url] Longer video (9:00 - 26:00 is Destiny related) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYQrCt_Wpes A quick mention on a couple of things: 1.) VIP rewards actually require you to purchase TTK to get them, so if you didn't want to or for some reason couldn't get TTK but liked Destiny, you WILL NOT get your special snowflake black shader, emblem and sparrow. This is disgusting and a way to make people purchase the expansion, even though TTK looks great you cant announce special s--t for year 1 players but say 'you only get it if you pay'. 2.) [b](IMPORTANT LINK)[/b]After the weekly update we now know absolutely NOTHING more about "something better" except for the fact that it exists. What we DID get was a game trying to sell us even more things with a $20 upgrade fee on top of the $40 if you just like collecting all the in game stuff/want to rock the titan hammer class item for example. Below is link to show you just HOW MUCH value you're getting, credit to Yamidam from Reddit. [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3b2f8y/what_is_20_worth/[/url] 3.) It's great to see people all over the world coming together to share ideas/opinion on the game in a mostly mature manner, please keep it up and be polite to each other. PS: I can't edit my main topic due to mods having edited it, didn't know that was a thing.

Ill pay 40 bucks for TTK cuz im pretty excited for new things in destiny Sometimes for me it isnt exactly the content itself, but rather the fact that it is NEW content, something new to do And the collectors edition stuff doesnt seem important to me I can get VIP stuff and be happy

I used to be passionate about this game.. Now TTK and other extremely disappointing choices have driven me to not even play for weeks.

$25 would havebeen the only reasonable price.

It's not fair to blame solely Activision. Everyone seems to forget that BUNGIE SIGNED A CONTRACT with all of that information in it. They knew all about the garbage pricing and dlc for Destiny and greedily accepted the terms. Bungie is Bungie in name only. How the mighty have fallen.

Don't care about the game anymore. Loved it when I first played in Beta and loved it even more when I met a ton of people to play with since launch date, but this game has slowly killed all of the fun I have had with it to the point my group is switching to another game until Bungie gets its head out of its ass and does some simple common-sense things to make the game less punishing and more enjoyable. Example? POE needs checkpoints. IDGAF about people who whine saying "but people will skip to the boss, waaaah." Are you kidding me? We are going to let a small number of gamers who aren't really interested in the actual GAME to hold the rest of the legit gamers hostage? Checkpoints are the right thing to do, period. Bungie tried to do a disconnection save feature and it is an epic fail! The first time I tried to do a lvl 35 Skolas post-patch, I had no problems until the pre-boss. I was not lagging at all and got errors several times that kept kicking me back to orbit. I reset modem/router, ran diagnostics and confirmed that my connection was FINE. I still kept getting kicked. Yet bungie reps kept telling me the errors were due to MY connection. I'm sure you all can guess that I didn't get to proceed on to Skolas (and neither did my fireteam!). The disconnection save didn't work to save OUR run. Regardless of WHOSE connection is at fault, a checkpoint just makes sense. If this ever happens, their answer seems to be "go back, do it again!" But considering how difficult and how much of a pain in the rear some rounds on the lvl 35 can be, this is panamount to torture! Its simply NOT fun anymore at that point. Not only is this content not fun due to the punishing mechanics of Prison of Elders, but it has funneled raid teams with strong bonds into 3 man groups, meaning we are all separated into tiny groups. I have a lot of people in my clan (or what I think is a lot), and if I hadn't quit to play another game (Defiance!), I would hardly get to play with any of them. The mechanics of the game have made raids irrelevant and broken up happy 6 man teams! Finally, if you do not enjoy this DLC's content (Prison of Elders, Trials of Osiris), then your basically stuck in neutral. You literally cannot advance at a decent pace if you do not want to play Prison or Trials (Iron Banner is not here often enough and you can only realistically purchase 2 etheric light from Saladin; Nightfall does not have a high enough chance to drop them- its lower than chance of getting an exotic). So let me state this again. If you want to advance, you MUST play Prison of Elders and Trials of Osiris. Otherwise, you are in no better position with this DLC than you were once you've completed all the content in Crota's End. Bungie, Trials and POE are great for those who enjoy them, but what are the rest of us supposed to do? Being forced to play these modes to advance has taken the fun out of the game. I have made numerous suggestions on how to improve the game and they all seem to get ignored. Even though I'm sure it'll fall on deaf and dumb ears and minds, I will ONCE AGAIN post my suggestions to make parts of the game more relevant and make the game more fun, expansive, and inclusive. 1. Checkpoints in Prison of Elders (see above comments) 2. Make daily heroic missions relevant again. On highest difficulty, you should get Ascendant materials from standard content, Radiant materials from Crota's End missions, and Chance of Etheric light (only once a week) for House of Wolves storyline missions. This makes the Daily more relevant! 3. Etheric light added to prizes for completing events. Limit one etheric light per week regardless of planet. Gives us a reason to farm events! 4. May Purchase etheric light from Xur (limit of 2 per week- its good enough for Iron Banner!) - this makes running the weekly heroic strikes more important. 5. Etheric light is now a random reward dropped while competing in the crucible, regardless of mode. Added to the treasure table, but the treasure table in crucible is so large, it will rarely drop which creates balance. It also allows those who like pvp but do not like how trials functions to earn etheric light. 6. How about a weekly heroic/nightfall bounty that's only available once a week through your chosen faction that allows you to choose your reward upon completion: 1) motes, 2) glimmer, 3) etheric light, or 4) strange coins. 7. Make Iron banner either a permanent fixture or come around more often than once a month. 8. Etheric light has random chance to spawn in the chest that appears after killing the Prowling Wolves. - make it roughly equivalent to the chances of getting legendary engrams (or even less). 9. Add etheric light to treasure tables in some aspect of each raid (give raid teams a chance to earn this stuff while playing together!) 10. Etheric light is now obtainable in Queen care packages. I don't care how you do it Bungie, these are just suggestions. IMO, the only one that is non-negotiable is checkpoints in POE. The bottom line is that this DLC has wrecked everything that has made this game fun for me and my group previously. If you want us to come back and play, bring back the fun. I don't think I'm the only one who feels this way, but Destiny would be nothing if it wasn't for the groups of people we play with. But when you break us up and you force us to play content that isn't fun, we are going to go play something else. So what are you (Bungie) going to do about it?

Bump

Don't plan to buy TTK, too many issues, would rather play with my friends, than be some random tag along on raids.

Bump.

My friends n I r burnt out. New game please!

Do I care - nuh - it's just a game ! Do I enjoy - too right I have lots of fun :)

Bump

Bump 100%

You spoke my mind: I like Destiny, but I don't love it. It's not worth the price of admission, and I'm not going to shell out $40 until I've read reviews saying it lived up to its promise and then some.

Yes. That is precisely why I get pissed off with every decision made about it. Destiny has the potential to be one of the most amazing experiences in gaming............and it's all thrown away for the sake of leeching as much money as possible. Has the idea of a satisfied and loyal fanbase that's impressed and WANTS to spend money on the game really become such an alien concept to the modern industry?

I'm waiting to see if that petition goes through, but I'm gonna re-purchase content to get goodies if I have to. I can make up for the cost by mowing 4 lawns and it's gonna give me numerous hours of fun. Definitely worth every cent.

Destiny is an amazing game

You sent me here from my thread. Although I agree with your post, the point I'm making is that I'm happy with the price-tag. $40 for a new destination, added story, a new Raid, new missions, new strikes, 4 new Crucible maps, new Crucible game types, new armour, new weapons, new sub-classes. I can guarantee that I will spend more time than the price tag I'm paying for playing The Taken King. What I'm not happy with is that fact that I will be paying [i]£40[/i], which is on it's way to double the price that you're paying in America. There're a few people on my thread mentioning McDonald's and Gas prices to defend the £40 I have to pay, and I can't quite understand why they're bringing that up. Here in the UK, we pay £4.49 for a Big Mac meal. In the USA, it costs $5.99. Let's put that into a perspective that you can see. Let's say that a Big Mac meal in America costs $40, here in the UK it would be cheaper, around £25-£30. I hope that helps with my point.

$40 is two-thirds of the price of a full, complete game. That means my expectation minimum for TTK begins at this expansion being two-thirds of a full, complete game. So you can imagine, no pre-order and no purchase of this expansion until I learn much much more about it. I've seen the ViDoc of TTK and got excited...until I remembered that the vanilla Destiny ViDoc looked equally epic. Then I got the game. Not about to be fooled another time.

I will buy it the reviews are good

Bump. I will not preorder. Not until they make thing right by is committed day 1 players.

I love the game and preorder already. I have been playing since Day 1 and haven't done mu check else. I will admit though, the start of year 2 might mark the end of it for me. If old gear is going to be phased out, I will likely stop playing.

I do care, but I want the shaders. It is that simple. HoW sucks in my opinion. POE was a dumb idea with you being ablento get raid armor in 4 weeks or 3 with ethric light. If this "expansion" does not donit for me then I am done. I would like to keep playing but if it does not keep my interest than so be it. Not pre ordering TTK is not going to revamp the game. It is done. They changed the packs two days ago. Hopefully it is what everyone wanted, if not either buy the game or don't. I am glad everyone has time to give feedback to improve the game since bungie does listen. Good luck in your movement. Cheers Rob