[quote]Nope, we can't kill people with a knee. That's the titan's job. But you, the moron who claims these fancy greeves are useless, have certainly not witnessed a over shield sun singer get taken down by a single, flying knee, which makes me think you obviously can't appreciate the value of things.[/quote] [quote]Can you do it [b]without [/b] your knee?[/quote] (Emphasis added.) You just can't read is the actual problem. I didn't call the greaves useless; I didn't mention them at all in fact. You also can't tell the difference between 'with' and 'without,' which happen to be complete opposites.