We the players that have played for almost the whole time the game has been out believe the game is being ruined by bellyaching noobs that dont want to put it the time it took us to get good weapons...yea it sux to get lit up by a thorn...get over it...u complainers are the reason we didnt get a raid with HoW dlc...bungie had to nerf this or make this boss easier....blah blah blah...I was a likable person that found cool good players that helped me make my game better...still not great but can hold my own...#TheRenegadeCollective was founded to help people get a better understanding on how to run missions and teach u how to solo things as well...so all u whiney crybabies should examine urselves and question "why cant I find cool people to help me out?" and accept the answer is "cause ur an uncool bad attitude whiney crybaby that shouldnt play co-op games cause U are annoying!!!"