What people don't understand is the people who cried for Suros and Vex to be nerfed have brought this on themselves , the vex was OP but hardly anyone had it , Both exotics got nerfed then all AR's got hit , people then complained about FR they were dominating in crucible guess what people cried they got nerfed, Shotguns took the Mantle , cries again and special ammo got limited , Xur should never sell exotics that's why there are so many TLW's but he's sold it 3 x , HC are not OP it's just everything else has already been nerfed , I guarantee if HC get nerfed these people win and there will be nothing left to use apart from everyone will use Red Death and Messenger then it will be nerf that messenger it's a two burst kill , the crucible is this way it is because of complainers that simple