My Personal Thoughts: [Warning; Very Long] Honestly I missed the days when a Bungie game meant a guaranteed promise of content, and was held up to something. Nowadays I'm not to sure what that means. Don't get me wrong, the spirit is there, and the Bungie Community is still a wonderful place to discuss everything/anything... But the whole experience feels hollow. O'Dwyer puts it best, [u]saying on how we're not really remembering any of our moments of gameplay, but of loot drops that we acquired[/u], something I believe is seriously wrong but understandable. I suppose after a while everyone thing blurs. [i][b]A simple question to be asked is: Would you enjoy Destiny without RNG?[/b][/i] The answer, is obviously not all black and white. Some experiences trounce this expectation, Raids, Trials, but if that fact were true then why have RNG at all? It raises a fairly good point, that Bungie can, and should rely on content to keep their players interested, although it doesn't necessarily have to be subscription based to do so. [i]Destiny, in its darkest of areas, employs tactics to the like of a game of roulette, with an obvious house advantage. [/i] However, be that as it may a simple play of chance is not the the corrupting factor, what is the plot however is that [u]Bungie relies on this sole fact to keep players invested[/u]; were already several weeks past House of Wolves and how long did the story missions last? For my one character a day, which I find slightly appalling. But a quick side story? That's fine, it's only when everything else is gone that the grind sets in. My point being: wouldn't you have rather have preferred an opposite scenario? A long fleshed out story pulling together multiple elements and then a small/medium grind? Or better yet why not have a majority of exotics with their own exotic quest to flesh out the lore? And then the audacity of Bungie to release such meager "expansions", driving our thirst for content. What the approach should've been is to have a fully finalized game, and then come up with an actual "expansion" doubling the amount of content, whatever it may be. At the rate it's going right now, Bungie shouldn't have priced Destiny at 60$, I'd argue 40$, of course people ate it up either way (including me). I suppose it's all a trick of the hat, but I do believe that there's more to be seen, and I have wavering confidence on what's ahead, because if Bungie continues this track their on then I can't continue with it myself.

I'm going to play the taken king. If this turns out to be a complete waste of time and does not allow me to enjoy hundreds of hours of more game play then count me out. Destiny had me for over 800 hours of Hella fun grinding (pc gamer, I enjoy the grind) but now it feels like a chore, but I still get on for iron banner and a few other things. Plus it's a time killer. Just hope taken king puts them back on track.

I don´t know. I mean there was time when Destiny was exactly this. Waiting for some new weapon and engram. But lately I´ve been completely skipping it. I barely play VoG and Crota even when I still don´t have Fatebringer,VoC,Fang,Swordbreaker...I stopped caring about PoE because well....why? I simply stopped running the game for loot and started gaming for fun. Even when I don´t have all the gear and only one character, I´ll rather opt for a few games of Control than running VoG again.

Feeling a bit icky after watching this. I've had this theory that bungie is pavlov'n us, and yet I still grind hard. If only this game was what it was originally supposed to be...

Because bungie is the first to ever use this buisness model .....oh wait

Bump, danny is the man

The slot machine engine is not in itself a bad thing. That's the best way to keep a game entertaining. However using it to make money is pretty revolting. Still, I'm in love with Destiny and though it's an abusive relationship, I want to be a part of the experience.

Maybe it your a PVE player, but I don't play pvp for a chance of a decent exotic. If there is a certain exotic I want, I just try nightfall or wait for Xur to sell it.

I'm at an emotional point to where I feel the same as I did right before I broke up with my ex. lol

I saw it and had to piece together the blown red fragments of my mind

It really is just an elaborate slot machine. Nothing actually happens in the game.

Oh man I dont know... I just want a more enjoyable pvp aspect since thats what makes me play. Iam used to grindy RNG games (Day 1 Daiblo 3 player and good 7 years of MMORPGs) made my skin thick if it comes to PVE grinds. I will see how No Mans Sky delivers and The Division, but so far from what Ive seen Iam not really impressed tbh... The first one seems like a mindless grind fest and is extremely overhyped and the second one looks like a DayZ meets the Last of US, which doesnt mean that its bad, but the game footage to this day wasnt really convincing at all. Imagine something like a patrol area with pvp in Destiny... Will get boring after a week. Future will show, but IF those two games live up to the hype then good bye Destiny. Another two games that might be very interesting regarding multiplayer are Metal Gear Solid 5 where you build your own base and the very underrated Uncharted pvp in the form of Uncharted 4. Bungie really has to step up their game bcoz competition is knocking on the door already.