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7/11/2015 9:40:08 PM
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[quote]For example, evolution requires a time scale of many millions of years, while many people understand the Bible to allow for an earth history of only a few thousand years.[/quote] Direct quote from OP.
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  • He didn't say that the bible said that, he said many people understand the bible to say that. The bible never puts a date on the earth or universe.

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  • Doesn't change the fact that his age of the world depends on the bible's validity.

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  • How, if the bible never gives an age?

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  • Because the bible is what leads him to believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old.

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  • But that's a misunderstanding. The bible doesn't need validating to validate a misunderstanding of it.

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  • [quote][quote]For example, evolution requires a time scale of many millions of years, while many people understand the Bible to allow for an earth history of only a few thousand years.[/quote] Direct quote from OP.[/quote] There was once a king that used real world events to calculate how old the world was, according to the bible. He found it to be a few thousand years old. If you've got Netflix, watch episode seven of Cosmos. The story is somewhere towards the beginning.

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  • But again that's a person's guess, not what the bible says. Man has inferred many things into the Scripture that isn't really there. That's not a bible problem.

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  • I'm guessing you didn't watch it. You therefore can't give an informed opinion.

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  • I don't need to watch it. If the bible does not say how old the earth and universe is then it's not a problem with the bible. I don't care what anyone says. They can add up dates or track historical events or whatever. If it's not in the bible then it's not a biblical issue.

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  • Wow. You're just like OP.

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  • Why, because you are saying that the bible needs to be validated as a reference to prove something that isn't in the bible? That's like telling me that the Lord of the rings needs to be validated before you'll accept facts about Huck Finn.

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  • So the bible doesn't directly state something? When has that ever mattered to Christians?

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  • That's the problem with Christianity and even atheist arguments nowadays. Instead of going by what the bible says they like to go by what Christians say about the bible.

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  • The bible doesn't have to directly state it. Using things the bible directly states, it can be determined how old the earth supposedly is.

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  • No you can't, because the bible is not written chronologically and every detail is not in there because it didn't need to be. The Scripture is there to lead us unto salvation through Jesus Christ and the more humans start adding, the further we get from that.

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  • I love how you refuse to look at my example, and continue to say the same things over and over again. You're just like SGC.

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  • Thank you

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  • That wasn't a compliment. He's quite possibly the stupidest person I've ever met.

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  • Considering you're a child, you should have some respect for your elders. You're just a little punk who thinks he knows it all. Plus you talk about stupid, I had to explain a very simple argument to you like ten times!

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  • Edited by BenjyX55: 7/12/2015 4:29:28 AM
    You can't be telling me that you agree with OP. And why should I respect people who can't comprehend simple logic? Just because something isn't explicitly stated doesn't mean it can't be determined. This is a principle that you should have learned in kindergarten mathematics. Seriously, and you say you have to explain things over and over. I don't think I know it all. I've argued my points with logic. Scroll down, look through my comments, and if you still agree with OP, then please castrate yourself and kill any offspring you have already created.

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  • It's cute when little boys try to talk tough.

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  • Edited by BenjyX55: 7/12/2015 3:45:47 PM
    I see you're now trying to deflect attention from your poor arguments. You better be careful what you say. That sentence there could get you in a lot of trouble.

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  • Only a childish perverted mind would think of it that way. And your arguments have been flawed some the beginning and I've explained that many times. I'm sorry you don't understand.

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  • Edited by BenjyX55: 7/12/2015 4:44:14 PM
    I understand perfectly. The bible never says how old the earth is. Let me explain this mathematically. Theorem Y does not state that theorem X is correct. However, theorem Y is used in a proof of theorem X. Therefore, the validity of theorem X depends on the validity of Theorem Y. If you can't comprehend this, then I'd say you must have no understand of mathematics whatsoever. But go ahead, cover up your poor arguments by attacking my age. Ad Hominem has never won an argument before, but who knows, you could be the first to make it happen. I suspect that, given your poor grasp of mathematics, you are probably younger than me anyway.

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  • You say: "Theorem Y does not state that theorem X is correct. However, theorem Y is used in a proof of theorem X. Therefore, the validity of theorem X depends on the validity of Theorem Y. " Like I said this is flawed from the start. Not only does theorem y not state that x is correct, it doesn't make any statements about x. Also, just because y is used to prove x, doesn't mean it's logical to do so. There are too many puzzle pieces missing to formulate any kind of reasonable theorem. It's not the bible that needs validation, it's the calculator.

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