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7/17/2015 12:33:20 AM
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Thorn didn't need a nerf. Exotics are suppose to be better than the rest. Now it is as powerful as my six dreg pride which takes 3 head shot kill and now so does thorn. (When the update hits of course)
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  • By your logic, I should be able to finish top of the scoreboard every game by using hard light or Suros? Pretty sure that doesn't happen. Not NEARLY to the extent that it does with Thorn.

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  • If you have to use thorn to be at the top then you can step out of pvp. Not gonna lie though, I've definitely used my fair share of it. But I've also finished top without it. People don't finish top 100% of the time with thorn anyway. I get destroyed by red death, pyradths revenge, hawkmoon and it's one shot kill, Lord of wolfs. Plenty of other ways to get to the top. Just play smart and know what situations to challenge or walk away in pvp.

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  • I don't think I've ever seen someone use hard light in pvp. You an pretty much guarantee that someone at the top of the scoreboard every game will be using thorn. That screams weapon imbalance. Don't get me wrong, I have thorn and can do great with it (not that hard) but I can also win a game with my Stranger's Rifle and Praedyth's Revenge. It's simply too easy to do well with thorn and most people have it nowadays because people figured out how to boost and cheat the bounty. Certainly worthy of a nerf.

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  • Correction- exotics are supposed to [i][u][b]feel[/b][/u][/i] overpowered not [b][i][u]be[/u][/i][/b] overpowered.

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  • I double checked my post and no corrections needed. I said better, not overpowered. Also, what is the point of feeling over powered??? You're saying gally should be even more nerfed than it is going to be? Because trust me, in pve that thing is OP. Exotics shouldn't "feel OP" then should get the job done better than a legendary can.

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  • Exotics aren't supposed to be better. They are supposed to be unique.

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  • A little over powered

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  • no just no

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  • Really though, you're going to say it didnt need nerfed?? Have you ever played a non combined arms pvp game? It is literally just a thorn fest and because of it, barely any other guns can compete with it. I fully agree on nerfing the DOT.

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  • Or we can increase in skill? I've beaten thorn with six dreg pride, red death, the vex I mean the list goes on! It was overused, very true and it will be a nice change not seeing it constantly, but wasn't gally in pve? And thanks to the complaining community that's nerfed too. It has little value in pvp now and it's little value in pve is now diminished. Like I said exotics are suppose to be better.

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  • A player's skill has nothing to do with weapon balance, I don't know why people like you don't understand this. Theoretically I could probably destroy my grandma in a 1v1 with a Vestian Dynasty and she could be using a full auto one-hit kill weapon, that doesn't mean that her weapon isn't overpowered. The Mida is the only gun I use in Crucible, and I have a pretty respectable K/D. I kill thorn and last word users all the time. The problem is when I run into someone a similar skill level to me using those guns, and I can't even break their shields. They are overpowered.

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  • I agree exotics are supposed to be better, and yes there is a lot of complaining. Although you and i and many people have beaten a thorn with a different weapon, if a skilled player is using the thorn, it is way more deadly than a skilled player using a red death, or a mythoclast, or anything else. Imo crucible will be slightly more balanced now, but we will see as soon as the update is available.

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  • Agreed. Like I said, will be a nice change of pace to not see it, I guess I'm just a tad salty that the complainers got what they wanted.

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  • Yea haha, im all for a gun being great but when its used to that extent it is quite ridiculous.

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