Or we can increase in skill? I've beaten thorn with six dreg pride, red death, the vex I mean the list goes on! It was overused, very true and it will be a nice change not seeing it constantly, but wasn't gally in pve? And thanks to the complaining community that's nerfed too. It has little value in pvp now and it's little value in pve is now diminished. Like I said exotics are suppose to be better.