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Edited by Bot8305: 7/18/2015 1:16:43 PM
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Nerfing Gjallarhorn will lead to extreme elitism

Bungie nerfs Gjally, Gjally still reigns supreme. Gjally does less DPS, so it'll become more relevant, since everyone in your fireteam will need one to output as much DPS as possible. More and more posts with Gjally only will emerge on LFG. JOB WELL DONE BUNGIE! Or am I missing something? @Deej or @Cozmo : you're reading this? Elitism will prevail unfortunately. Go report that back to your game designers ;-) Credits to Skyguy: [quote]Let me make it easy for you, lets say we need 225k damage to kill a boss. Gjally does 9k while other rockets do 6k. Everyone has 5 rockets, so a gjally user would do 45k damage, while a non gjally user will do 30k damage. Right now we need 3 gjally users and 3 different rockets to kill him. Now if we make ghorn do 40k per 5 shots, we'll need 4 gjally users and 2 regular rocket launchers and some extra shots from primary to kill it. Most people would go for the easy way where they don't need to shoot extra shots with primaries, that would mean people would require 5 gjallys to do what could've been done with 3 gjallys in the past.[[/quote] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139323167/0/0/1 Important note: the patch hasn't come out yet, we're discussing different outcomes. Who knows what will happen next. Credits to Draconalu for this Forbes article: [url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2015/07/17/nerfing-gjallarhorn-and-thorn-is-the-exact-wrong-move-for-destiny/]link[/url]

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  • I see it like this...if they didn't put so many freaking adds in a boss fight...the WE WOULDN'T NEED GALLY! you spend more time killing adds than even shooting at the boss.....at a BOSS fight....

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    • If Bungie were really that bothered about players who insisted on team members having a gally then the simplest solution would've been to have Xur sell it. Instead, they use the selfish actions of a minority of players to justify a totally unnecessary nerf. Previously I've never cared whether someone has a gally or not, but seeing as Bungie are treating the entire community like recalcitrant children I'm going to act like one and refuse to play with / help out anyone who doesn't have a fully maxed gally as a matter of principle.

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      • Really bizarre logic & utter nonsense

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        • Edited by jareids: 7/17/2015 2:04:24 PM
          This is just not true. Sure gally still does the most, but now it won't 100% outclass every other exotic in our inventories. Using something with tripod like dragons breath or truth will become acceptable because they won't be doing half the damage that gally does. Plus now it won't be so necessary to use your exotic slot on a heavy weapon. Maybe people will realize finally that a gally is [b]not[/b] the best weapon to use in crota, but red death is (to combat Crotas presence modifier) TL;DR: It used to be that players without gallys did [b]far less[/b] damage than those with gallys. Now that gap won't be so big, so gally won't be such a firm requirement.

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          • Xur will sell Gally soon. Problem solved!

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          • [quote]Bungie nerfs Gjally, Gjally still reigns supreme. Gjally does less DPS, so it'll become more relevant, since everyone in your fireteam will need one to output as much DPS as possible. More and more posts with Gjally only will emerge on LFG. JOB WELL DONE BUNGIE! Or am I missing something? @Deej or @Cosmo : you're reading this? Elitism will prevail unfortunately. Go report that back to your game designers ;-) Credits to Skyguy: [quote]Let me make it easy for you, lets say we need 225k damage to kill a boss. Gjally does 9k while other rockets do 6k. Everyone has 5 rockets, so a gjally user would do 45k damage, while a non gjally user will do 30k damage. Right now we need 3 gjally users and 3 different rockets to kill him. Now if we make ghorn do 40k per 5 shots, we'll need 4 gjally users and 2 regular rocket launchers and some extra shots from primary to kill it. Most people would go for the easy way where they don't need to shoot extra shots with primaries, that would mean people would require 5 gjallys to do what could've been done with 3 gjallys in the past.[[/quote] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139323167/0/0/1[/quote] I mean heres a tip.....they nerf stuff because everyone in the game wants to be an elitist asshat. So i have a gally for every character....earned mine too. But im not gonna hate on a buddy cuz he still doesnt have one. Am i pissed about the nerf? Hell yes.....but hey you cant please everyone. Lesson learned......stop thinking that gjallorhorn makes the player and start realizing that in reality its a crutch for lack of skill. Truth be told.....my goal is the hunger of crota anyway....

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          • That, or Truth will take its place.

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            • Then it will need to be nerfed again.

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            • Unless they nerfed gally to truths level....

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              • Edited by TheWickedZaku: 7/17/2015 2:15:11 PM
                This is the simple fact. G horn is still the better all around launcher. It doesn't make you an elitist for knowing or saying this. That being said I still use other launchers anyway.

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              • After the nerf, Not only will people want more gallys on the lfg sites, but people will probably also want nighthawk hunters. Especially for Crota.

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                • everyone on LFG already asks for Gally, so it doesn't get worse, just nothing changes lol

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                  • This may be some of the worst logic I've ever seen.

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                    • Edited by Cmdr Chaos: 7/17/2015 11:50:09 AM
                      September, Destiny LFG: LFG: Crota Hard Need 5 more with Gjallarhorn. Must NOT have MoT emblem or $20 emotes. If you're wearing a black shader you're booted. Prefer Emblem of the Founders

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                      • Oh jesus christ so much fail in one post. How about you just get good and learn how kill bosses mobs probably nothing is that hard in this game

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                        • https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/139178600/0/0. Funny you should say that Lols;)

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                        • Im sorry but what is happening right now? I have a Ghorn on the xbone but on playstation I dont. I couldnt find A SINGLE GROUP who would raid with me on VoG OR Crota. I am a level 28 sure, but they ALL said "Must have Ghorn". Stop being mad. Get over it. IT WILL NOT BE AS BAD AS YOU THINK.

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                          • Get a gally and get gud and stop raging just because u don't do the exotic chances Get a gally and stop being a little kid

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                            • Lets say that with the Truth hitting 6 rockets is the same amount of time it takes to hit 4 Gjallarhorn shots. Better tracking...much higher impact. I think the posts will change to must have Truth.

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                            • It will only lead to that if people act like children. The idea is that for a little less damage you can use other loadouts and perks. Also, gating content. If you didn't see the issue with that chart, I don't understand how you enjoy the game doing the same content relying on the same rockets synth rockets method. It's hardly playing the content.

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                              • Then it would get nerfed further because people are lazy and also forgetting Bungie's intent was to stop gating content and to prevent the spam of G-horn. If people's answer is spam harder then you'd just justify another nerf I'd presume. Basically, if people could actually play the content without relying on a hypothetical extra 15k from rockets, then there wouldn't be an issue.

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                                • It use to be "need 3-4 Ghorns" now it is going to be "need 6 Ghorns, no if ands or buts."

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                                  • That was legitneeeees. Im serious.

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                                  • Instead of 1 gally to make Crota kneel, we're going to need two.

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                                  • Exactly... I didn't require gally for anything, now I will...

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                                  • not true at all. Bring on the nerf! I can taste the tears already!

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