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Signed. Why didn't they do the same nerf to bad juju? It has the same concept get a critical get a full mag of ammo with no loss of reserve. You know why? Because not enough people use it in pve to "justify" nerfing it. Let this be a lesson to everyone. If you like a gun too much, bungies eventually gonna nerf it.
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  • Or you know... Bad juju is an exotic and that's what makes it unique. The black hammer is only a legendary. The fact that it can reload instantly is unique from any other sniper in the game (unless you roll triple tap) I support the nerf

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  • Then explain the Icebreaker nerf. Nobody was complaining about it, it's been the same since the beginning but too many people were relying on it so it had to be nerfed.

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  • Let's think about the raids really quick. How many people use ice break to cheese the bridge in crota or the oracles in the vault of glass so they're not wasting ammo

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  • That's the whole point of icebreaker. Who cares if people are using it on oracles vs strike bosses.

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  • It's being used to cheat the game. That's what bungie wants to avoid

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  • How? Because it takes 3 minutes rather than 6 to kill Sepiks prime for the 1000th time?

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  • It's not because its abuse in strikes, its because of its abuse in raids. Are you dense?

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  • Edited by Crott117: 7/18/2015 2:40:23 PM
    Given the # of people that do strikes vs raids, it's abused significantly more in strikes. Atheon and Templar are the only real places to abuse BH in raids and you don't need more than 18 rounds for them

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  • almost all raid weapons are unique..

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  • Let's see... Vault of glass Atheon's epilogue. Nothing unique.. Vision of confluence, nothing too unique just full auto and field scout. Praedyths revenge, field scout on a sniper, not too unique but useful. ( Can't comment on praedyths timepiece as I don't have it) fatebringer has nice impact and has firefly. Something I have in just about every legendary scout rifle. That one rocket launcher that has cluster bombs. Vex mythoclast, full auto fusion and its exotic so it deserved its uniqueness Crotas end: Word of crota: basically has triple tap Fang of ir yut: can mark enemies; unique Hoc: basically like the vault of glass rocket launcher just with crappy tracking BH: can reload instantly if and only if you can land 3 precision hits; unique-ish (bad juju does it better) Oversoul edict: standard full auto pulse rifle nothing unique Song of ir yut: too unstable and nothing really unique Light of the abyss: nah Abyss defiant: though it's a wizard killer, it doesn't do much and nothing is really unique about it Nechrocasm: it being an exotic deserves its uniqueness even if its unusable as of now I'm not trying to say legendaries can't be unique but raid weapons are only truly good for the raids or enemies they were created for. Black hammer is just a watered down sniper version of bad juju.

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  • Makes it unique until too many people rely on it. Then they have to make it less desirable.

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  • It's not even that. If black hammer was an exotic, and they tried to take away white nail, then I'd be pissed. But its only a legendary, and I have no problem scavenging for extra ammo when possible.

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