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originally posted in: Won't the Gjally nerf backfire?
7/17/2015 8:50:58 PM
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Are you serious? So if Gjallarhorn is almost on par with other rocket launchers then wouldn't any RL be sufficient? If it's only a little bit better instead of astronomically better then nobody should care, right? If on a scale of 1-100 Gjallarhorn was 100 and truth was a 75 and you bring Gjallarhorn down to an 80 then everybody can play because it doesn't matter what rocket launcher you have because the difference isn't alot
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  • Edited by Gabhlan: 7/21/2015 10:48:49 AM
    Agreed. when Gjallarhorn is reduced in power it will make all the other rocket launchers more valid options so anything with tracking should be a viable alternative. The Gjallarhorn should still be the best of the bunch but it won't be as much of a must have requirement in certain situations.

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  • [quote]The reality is that Gjallarhorn was 100, Hunger of Crota is 60, and Truth is a 50. The power discrepancy was huge.[/quote] Quoting the guy below, they brang down Ghorn to a 75-80, so theoretically, it'll simply require MORE GHORNS TO FINISH ANYTHING.

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  • Except that the game doesn't require any Ghorns to complete anything.

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  • But people will want it done fast so theoretically they'll want more, do you really think making it slightly worse but still the best gun is going to change the elitists?

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  • Who cares about elitists? Nothing is going to "change" them. You can only marginalize them through design. Nerfing Ghorn gives Bungie the freedom to adjust current and future content around the new norm instead of a fringe case weapon.

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  • The reality is that Gjallarhorn was 100, Hunger of Crota is 60, and Truth is a 50. The power discrepancy was huge.

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  • What about Dragons breath???

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  • Dragon's Breath damage output has potential that is always wasted. Enemy AI is incredibly good at avoiding AOE grenades and couple that with the ridiculously low velocity projectiles, you've got yourself a weapon with a lot of potential, but still falls short.

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  • [quote]Dragon's Breath damage output has potential that is always wasted. Enemy AI is incredibly good at avoiding AOE grenades and couple that with the ridiculously low velocity projectiles, you've got yourself a weapon with a lot of potential, but still falls short.[/quote] And bluntly, that's part of what makes gally so effective compared to other rocket launchers, all damage impacts a target. With HoC, if the target is "floaty" (wizard for instance), then the cluster bombs are wasted. With DB, enemy moves out of damage. Truth comes closer, but has no follow-on damage. Between gally's tracking, hidden proximity perk, and Wolfpack rounds, you have a decent amount of potential damage that will always hit SOMETHING.

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  • This^

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  • If we're talking damage output, Truth is somewhere at 40 and Gjallarhorn is at 100. It's that much of a disparity.

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  • How about you make the other launchers better but in different ways so they are all good

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  • Because damage is the most important stat. Dragons Breath was exactly what you mentioned - it is not used.

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  • Other launchers are good, it's just Gjallarhorn was so much better, but if you bring it down to earth with the rest of the launchers then it doesn't matter what launcher you use, even though I'm pretty sure Gjallarhorn will still rule all the rocket launchers

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  • you forget tho, logic dont work with this community most times ;)

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  • That's why I tried to put it in numbers so stupid people could understand it more easily

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