thorn: range nerf alone would have sufficed. losing a ranged fight to a handcannon while using a scout rifle never made sense to me. was never about the DoT. lackluster in pve for me ice breaker: silly, just downright silly. pve nerf. the odd thing is that i only use this weapon for: juggler (or invective), solar burn (maybe, chances are bh) and vog oracles with my scout rifle. do they intend for me to stop using it altogether? black hammer: this one i can see, it was kinda op (and yet still limited in it's use). total pve nerf. hell if you got 3 headshots in pvp then you deserve your entire ammo to be recharged, a medal and in game text to all players in the match saying you just did so.