Your forgetting the so called newbies who lie way to often about going through a raid and then you unfortunately have to kick them and then they go tell bungie it's a never ending cycle remember when all of us actually had to work to become 32 house of wolves has completely ruined it when the newbies accept that fact and say hey iv never been through a raid and say I want to learn ..... it may never change but house of wolves has ruined what we all felt together the struggle was real and to compensate the lies from people they require you to have so and so w.e to play so you at least no alil but ulas they still don't know the stuggle not being an ass just stating