when people bitch, whine, groan , complain that is when things get fuked with and ruined a lot of these just made the weapons more useless in PVE than they were before. its really bad with a PVE primary game to completely cater to its PVP side with out Leaving the PVE alone. the Gjallerhorn nerf not really a big one as it will still to a lot more damage than any other. The BlackHammer if I land 3 crits with that I should get free ammo in a insta refill. people just need to stop bitchin in general most of the dedicated fan base is probably going to move on after TTK comes out and Bungie is gonna have to brib them back, eventhough that wont work cause the current bunjie regime has no clue what its players are looking for.