Nearly 1000 hours played between my four level 34 characters (yes four, deleted one of my hunters to level a warlock...), a Grimmoire score of 3550, and every exotic in the game EXCEPT the one I have wanted the most since day 1. Hawkmoon, one of the PS4 exclusives...
3 nightfalls a week, regular raids on all characters, hundreds of top level strikes, PoE, ToO every week on all three characters flawless...
Xbox users will start getting theses so called "exclusives" before PS4 players. You know, the weapons that were supposed to be perks / bonuses for playing destiny on the PS4... What's the point if you can't get them? Everyone knows that as soon as they unlock the PS4 exclusives for Xbox users, that someone is going to immediately do a nightfall or open a legendary engram and get Hawkmoon, which is BS. The past 100 exotic rolls that I have had, have been guns that I already had drop.
At this point, it's just deception. "Let's market PS4 exclusives that are AWESOME to have, but the best one out of all of them, Hawkmoon, the most coveted and sought after gun, we'll make it impossible to get!"
obviously it's a ploy to keep players playing and searching for this illusive prize and another reason for Xbox users to come back to the game once the "exclusives" are available to them. Because, they market and sell PlayStation exclusives as something awesome and desirable to get. However, never in their marketing or selling did they mention that although PlayStation exclusives DO exists, they will be impossible to get for some players due to the weighted RNG system.
If Bungie can make Gjallarhorn disappear from Xur's inventory when it shows up by mistake, then they can make him sell Hawkmoon to PS4 players. How hard would it be to create another NPC in the tower that sells PS4 exclusives for PS4 players? I don't care if the requirements are super involved, even if it was a crazy long quest line. EVEN if I had to pay real money for the damn thing, I would.
The "R" in RNG is not equally weighted.
For a simple example: if there were only 10 total exotics in the game, and Hawkmoon was one of them, one would expect to get one on average every 10 drops.
But if the system is rigged so that Hawkmoon only has a 1% chance of dropping, and the other 9 a 11.1% chance of dropping, they can keep you chasing it for a long time.
Then, once you get it once, the odds to get it again can be reset to 10%, enhancing your odds of getting it again sooner.
So while it is still random, the system is rigged to keep people chasing longer
So, weapon odds are different for everyone, making it unfair as we all paid the same damn price for this game.
And for all of you scrubs that will just respond by calling me a name or attempting to make fun of me behind your computer screen - I'm gay, I like dicks, I take it in the ass mouth ear, I'm a fgt (wtf is this?) and you have all been with my mom, I cry every second of every day I'm a big baby bitch -blam!- and of course I like dicks (again, for emphasis), Oh and yes I am a salt factory, that's all I do.
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I just got my hawkmoon and I been playing since January.
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RNG is actually based off your username, it's been proved before
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Edited by RyDyR: 7/27/2015 4:59:21 PMSomeone doesn't understand math and the word [u][i][b]"random"[/b][/i][/u]
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OPs post is filled with so much garbage most people won't understand what he is trying to say. He believes that destiny doesn't use a balanced drop rate, that certain items (like hawkmoon in this case) have a lower multiplier. His example was if there was 10 exotics in the game, during a roll to get an exotic it would be 10% per each one, so statistically after getting 10 in a row it should be extremely rare to get the same exotics consistently without get some of the others first (I've gotten 7 hard lights in a row). In a weighted system the more rare items have a lower drop rate. So if the hawkmoon was the only weighted exotic at a 1% drop rate, the other 9 would have an 11% drop rate. People also believe that the thunderlord and ghorn are among some other exotics that have lower drop %. Here's the thing... We were never told that destiny doesn't have a weighted drop system, and for just about every game that I've played that uses drops, they utilize some system like this in order give items some feeling of rarity.
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I m missing vex... we all miss something, but will eventually drop.
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I remember getting Hawkpoon from a vog run during vanilla days. Errbody in the party got pissed.
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My brothers gotten like 7 now its just your unlucky gun I still haven't found Monte Carlo from day 1
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So how is this "confirmed"? You sound like you're just a crybaby.
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If the exclusives come to XB1 and I get Hawkmoon, it's either gonna sit in my vault, or become some weapon parts and an exotic shard.
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Can someone summarize what he's complaining about please? I got a bit lost
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With your gameplay time I doubt you do everything everyweek.
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Yeah... About that. I have about 82 total hours on my Playstation account and have two Hawkmoons. I got the first one after maybe 40 hours.
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I've gotten two, don't stress about it. You've still got a month and a half to get it.
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Las Vegas was literally built on this concept... this is not new.
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It's all luck based, I've gotten 6 of them, it's just random bro, you'll get it eventually
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Edited by TaKeNoTeS: 7/27/2015 4:41:25 PMStop your bitchin you little girl, it's all random, you should be happy with what you have you unsatisfied little -blam!-
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Whiner... Should have gotten a Xbox
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Only able to comment on your headline, the rng system is absolutely geared to keep you playing if you can skip out on like two weeks then bust out everything across all your characters you should get a few nice rewards man. The more hours you have, the more aggressive you've gotta be about getting what you need. Or just stop playing altogether and pick it back up after a few weeks. Destiny will still be around man.
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I've had like 10 hawkmoons drop literally lol some ppl are just unlucky
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Has every exotic in the game except for one - complains about drop rates. Never go full retard.
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Actually, Deej said that the hawkmoon was the hardest gun to get in the game
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What? It is rare cause it isn't Xurred. I have gotten five of them to drop.
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I've had 4 Hawkmoons...
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Ok. I got a Hawkmoon working days of its release. I had no idea that it was such a daughter after weapon for the longest time.
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Im on Xbone and ill have it before you
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That's your experiences. The exclusives were one of my first exotics. What I really couldn't get was Red Death..... Bought it from Xur when he sold it only to have it drop non stop soon after....