I wasn't really aiming my response at you directly or suggesting you are elitist. More a general observation. Like I say I really don't judge any player . It doesn't cross my mind. If someone is new to a raid in my experience they are usually asking for help to run it anyway. In my case I am a Day 1 player who has done most things in the game & yet my Grim score would suggest otherwise based on this community's guide of 3000 + so go figure.