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I agree it's just a game and it should be fun, but sadly for a growing number of players it's not. And this I think bubbles down to what you said about thorn being a challenge to overcome in crucible through skill. However it doesn't really matter how skilled you are if it's not one person using thorn but two or even three people on the same team all using it. And that's what has everyone so upset, it's not the OPness of the weapon, it's that everyone has discovered how effective it really is and are subsequently using it as their weapon of choice. This was because of its superior range and DoT, it didn't matter if there was damage drop off for the round fired, the DoT made certain that you needed at least three successful shots to kill anyone at any distance. I agree nothing is infallible but You can't deny that there is strength in numbers, one last word can't beat three thorns. It's not fun to consistently fight against people using the same weapon as everyone else. I think the nerf was deserved and if others really think that it will ruin their play style well there are other guns to use. I however (if I ever decide to start playing again) will stay with my last word and adapt to the situation just as I always have.
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  • The question is, are those teams going to be any less lethal and piss people off less when they're all using Red Death? To punish everyone that uses a weapon because [i]some[/i] teams use it exclusively is a slippery slope.

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  • I wouldn't say some. I'd say that the vast majority of people who compete in events like trials and iron banner use thorn almost exclusively. In regular PvP it's not as bad, but rarely have I come across a match where there isn't at least one person using it, be it on my team or the enemies. And if I remember correctly there was I time when there was widespread red death usage, it was directly after the pulserifle buff. But please explain how that would be worse than thorn, I know that kills restore your health but there are many other weapons that can counter it effectively where as with the thorn it really came down to a few select guns and the players own skill.

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