Instead of ruining the best guns most of us enjoy using they should understand why the other guns are vault warmers and suck. I'd love to use other guns but most of them suck especially for end game content. Now they go ahead and ruin the few guns that are fun to use and work well with end game content. Seems to me like they don't know how to make useful, fun, diverse guns. Until they learn how to make diverse useful guns every nerf they do will just change names of the most overused weapons. One would also think that after nerfing guns into oblivion and see only a few new ones take their place they would stop with the nerfs and fix the crappy guns so we could be more diverse and still damage things at the same level. My bet is they will not learn and we'll see thousands of posts especially from PvP players crying about the next "thorn, tlw, etc.). It will be like a revolving door of only several guns most of us use with little to no diversity like armor. How in the world did GearBox figure out how to make so many unique guns that were useful in end game content??? Maybe they had good "sand" in their sandbox...