Do you people not understand how progress works?
They are going to increase the level cap to 50 people.
That means that you won't be able to keep your level 32-34 gear. Just like you didn't get to keep using the russian rifle you get in the beginning of the game forever and ever and had to move on to a new gun.
You don't get to choose when you stop progressing or get to demand that nothing changes. People talk about gamer entitlement and for the most part I think its bullshit, but what I am seeing here is the definition of entitlement. You all want all the new content , but you don't wanna give up what you already have. You demand that you get to keep using the same stuff forever unless you find something better.
Thats not how games works. Especially games that are expansion based.
When the Reaper of Souls expansion came to Diablo 3 you didn't get to keep using your old gear. You had to move on to the new content.
When WoW releases a new expansion you don't get to keep using your old gear.
Whe CoD/Halo releases a new game you don't get to keep the gear you were already using in the previous installment.
This is an ACTUAL expansion for Destiny. Not the hollow husks that we got like HoW and TDB yet even THEY forced us to move on to new raid gear and new weapons.
But you think that TTK is somehow different? Despite the fact that it will supposedly contain more than double what HoW and TDB had combined?
Exotics will of course be able to be upgraded, but if you think you should able to be using a Fatebringer (A Level 30 Weapon) and it still be JUST as good as it ever was at Level 50 then you people are out of your minds.
[b][u]I understand that some people are attached to their weapons and I also understand that some of you still haven't even GOTTEN the weapons in question yet so you don't wanna see that effort go to waste but this is how it has ALWAYS worked when it comes to expansions. Year 1 gear WILL be pushed to the background especially now that they are even releasing new gun makers. Do you really think they would go through all of this trouble and effort of creating all this new content, but still let everyone use and abuse the old stuff as well? [/u][/b]
[b]EDIT: Just to be clear I am speaking about [i]PvE[/i] exclusively. I know that in PvP you will obviously be able to use whatever you want. I am talking about PvE where numerical stats actually matter.[/b]
[b]EDIT 2: Also just to be clear I am not claiming they are gonna REMOVE the old guns. I am simply saying that by increasing the level cap they will be forcing you to REPLACE the old guns. [/b]
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In some some situations, newer is better.
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Edited by RIP-The-Dragon: 7/26/2015 6:41:19 AMI will use my old gear and new all my old gear will be my trophy room and will still use all my stuff for change up and challenging my self. Ps please give my a trophy room
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I grinded for my stuff, of course i wanna still use it in the dlc.dont know about you but my gear and guns are customized to my play style...seems like a lame attempt to get suckers to start all over. -blam!- that
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I 100% agree with you. It's time to move on and expect better guns and gear from Bungie in TTK. I want to reminisce using all those awesome VoG and TDB gear years from now but those better not be the beat guns available 2 to 3 years from now. I'd even be ok with losing all of our exotics if they have better ones to replace them.
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Nope I'll just ascend my shit
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You're an idiot. You're also a slave to the hamster wheel. You compared DLC to a new game. People still play Halo 3 and COD 4 with the same weapons. It's about gameplay you sheep.
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Im ok with moving on but yeah i will be sad to see them gone
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As long exotics get carried out il be okay with it
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Yes, but my FATEBRINGER!
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What's the harm in upgrading old gear?
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In the new game i have no problem upgrading to new weapons but in a dlc not soo much lol u use cod as an example but in cod dlc guns do not replace all other weapons...bungie needs to make better guns. So people that will be new to the game with ttk from purchasing the collectors edition won have a reason to play half of the game if the loot has been deemed obsolete already...
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Then new gear needs to be worthwhile in getting. I'm all for leaving old gear behind, played eq from beta until 4 years ago. This being stated, don't downgrade items, make them desired to chase.
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I'll gladly leave my old gear behind when they make more interesting and useful stuff. Also if they some how produce enough content that will allow people to be unique and not look the same just like vanilla. After two expansions there are finally enough options with the progression system that you can really do your own unique builds and not look the same as everyone else. I am not hopeful that ttk is going to achieve this all on its own.
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If Bungie would increase vault space, they could leave year one perks alone, and leave attack at 365, and I'd be fine with that. Forcing us to delete our favorite weapons to make room for usable ones is not the answer.
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So when the new stuff comes out I can upgrade my Truth to full auto and 500 round capacity? Sweet.
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I think we should be able to bring some shit with us! I mean we did grind for them!
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Edited by Enochua: 7/26/2015 5:34:31 AMThe magic of RPGs is that you get better and better gear. But exotics should not only be relevant but still be power houses. Given balance of course. But the problem is this is Also a shooter and people tend to get more attached to their favorite guns. But I'm guessing that we will find equivalences to our favorites but better evolutions of them. And I'm hoping hybrids.
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Let me keep my VoG helmet. It's beautiful. No flaps covering its vision, no weird dumb stripes or atrocious unicorn horn. It's simplistic, smooth, with the orange highlights around the visor. It is love. It is life. I would rather keep my helmet for 9 years then ever ascend a single exotic.
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Edited by CreativeTim: 7/26/2015 5:51:52 AMI would agree if this expansion added the same amount of content that was released in the base game plus the dlcs. If bungie makes those guns irrelevant then there would be no reason to play the old content anymore except maybe to get some exotics. Bungie needs to revamp the old content so that they are still relevant. Maybe add takenfied weapons to the old raids and poe.
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I just want a lot of vault space to keep a collection for memories
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Gonna miss praedyths timepiece
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I think armor should be moved on for variety But I agree that guns (non exotic) should be left behind
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Cant you just level up the weapons
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I wish they'd offer 5 "special light" upgrades after TTK. Like the jackolytes, we only get 5, period. and they can ascend any weapon to the new light level.
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You shut up.