Do you people not understand how progress works?
They are going to increase the level cap to 50 people.
That means that you won't be able to keep your level 32-34 gear. Just like you didn't get to keep using the russian rifle you get in the beginning of the game forever and ever and had to move on to a new gun.
You don't get to choose when you stop progressing or get to demand that nothing changes. People talk about gamer entitlement and for the most part I think its bullshit, but what I am seeing here is the definition of entitlement. You all want all the new content , but you don't wanna give up what you already have. You demand that you get to keep using the same stuff forever unless you find something better.
Thats not how games works. Especially games that are expansion based.
When the Reaper of Souls expansion came to Diablo 3 you didn't get to keep using your old gear. You had to move on to the new content.
When WoW releases a new expansion you don't get to keep using your old gear.
Whe CoD/Halo releases a new game you don't get to keep the gear you were already using in the previous installment.
This is an ACTUAL expansion for Destiny. Not the hollow husks that we got like HoW and TDB yet even THEY forced us to move on to new raid gear and new weapons.
But you think that TTK is somehow different? Despite the fact that it will supposedly contain more than double what HoW and TDB had combined?
Exotics will of course be able to be upgraded, but if you think you should able to be using a Fatebringer (A Level 30 Weapon) and it still be JUST as good as it ever was at Level 50 then you people are out of your minds.
[b][u]I understand that some people are attached to their weapons and I also understand that some of you still haven't even GOTTEN the weapons in question yet so you don't wanna see that effort go to waste but this is how it has ALWAYS worked when it comes to expansions. Year 1 gear WILL be pushed to the background especially now that they are even releasing new gun makers. Do you really think they would go through all of this trouble and effort of creating all this new content, but still let everyone use and abuse the old stuff as well? [/u][/b]
[b]EDIT: Just to be clear I am speaking about [i]PvE[/i] exclusively. I know that in PvP you will obviously be able to use whatever you want. I am talking about PvE where numerical stats actually matter.[/b]
[b]EDIT 2: Also just to be clear I am not claiming they are gonna REMOVE the old guns. I am simply saying that by increasing the level cap they will be forcing you to REPLACE the old guns. [/b]
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You make assumptions that it has to be that way. Why? Is there some rule that says so? By the way I voted for... [spoiler]option 3[/spoiler]
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git gud
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Progression only works if the new gear they come out with is just as good or better than what we already have. Hopefully there will be a new fatebringer and gally
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I didn't read past this moron's first paragraph. Too much stupid.
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Doc is supposed to add new content, not replace older content
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Is it so wrong for us to decide what we think looks good and what looks like crap? Just like TDB they're making the wrong decisions. There were only 2 ways for someone to be level 32. Crota or IB. The IB gear looks great and maybe I want to keep it. Is that so wrong?
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My Supremacy will be missed
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Still have yet to get an elemental primary...
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But what would that mean for raids we already have? Are the prizes useless?
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I'm aware that the game has to move on and I'm okay with that but I'm also sad to see them go
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I agree and am fine with leaving fatebringer and my other favs behind. I welcome change and when I say change I don't mean having shank burn on my -blam!-in gun. If that's the kind of new weapons perks we are in for then expect some pissed off people. Guess we will wait and see.
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If they do let us keep them. The upgrade should be a serious grind. A painful grind like VOG in year one.
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I think the way exotics will be able to move forward is with exotics having light levels as seen in the videos
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Why would they bother to introduce etheric light so late if in a few months guns would be useless ?
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I agree with you completely. Destiny is a ten year project and i dont want to be using gally, VoC, BlackHammer and all the usual stuff for years. Those weapons were awesome and fun but this game only truly progress and get better if people progress with it. I love my weapons but clinging to them like a child will hold the game back and i dont want that and neither should others
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I will be sad when the day comes that LDR 5001 becomes useless. It's my favorite legendary sniper
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I wouldn't have an issue with it had they not set precedence with the ability to bring vanilla hear to max lebron in HoW.
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Edited by Terendol: 7/26/2015 12:20:22 AMYes yes, we know, progresshun'. The only problem between this and other games is that they set a precedent with HoW and let the weapons persist from the previous expansions. Perhaps the divide between Crotas End and Vault of Glass should have been higher to make the gear disparity make more sense. And same thing for HOW. Instead, they don't really know what they are doing design wise and kept the level difference too close together, allowing you to keep the first tier of weapons. Mistake. Then in HoW they purposely let you keep using the first tier of weapons if you wanted. Another mistake. They're learning just wonder how long it's going to take for them to fix loot. Every single person I've ever talked to on this game never has had a single solitary good thing to say about loot and progression in this game.
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Destiny is not an mmo, bungie has said this multiple times. This is a game we/bungie want it to be so speak your mind, if you want to move forward with new weapons put them in the vault and use them. I for one would like to use my old weapons and will surly use omalon and suros.
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This guy gets it
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I just think we should be able to upgrade or re-earn old raid weapons and armor, otherwise what would be the point of doing the old activities? They will keep adding new things to do but if we don't get to upgrade our old things then there's no point in doing old activities and thus removes things to do in the game.
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I don't care about using old/new gear, nor do I care about using old/new weapons in pve. In pvp? Man, you can't separate me from my deviant gravity A. I've been through thick and thin with that thing. I've faced countless gally's, grenades and horseshoes rockets, golden guns, nova bombs, ETC with it by my side. I think all legendary guns in pvp events such as IB/ToO should be boosted up stat wise while in game if you're not able to upgrade them.
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I'll miss my Red Death, Universal Remote, and Icebreaker. But really looking forward to those Hakke weapons.
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It is not confirmed that light level will be 50. People are saying this was a glitch in the system for the people testing TTK crucible.
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All I gotta say is longbow date ringer gjalla vision of confluence hawk moon thorn ect that every one uses in pve and pvp are all from the day one. Not from dlc. These guns will still be effective when the dlc comes out.
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All I care about is having something of a trophy case