You mean cheesing him off with Ghorns? Seriously though, after they fixed the cheeses...it was the bugs that made it the hardest. Once they fixed the bugs, it was still a pretty hard raid. It's still a pretty hard raid. A lot of the people I've run it with recently were relatively new to the game. I also even forgot the buttons for the relic it was so long ago I last wielded it. Took a half second of using it to remember how to wield it. Still a fun raid to do. I'll definitely keep doing it to help others and to break the boredom.