The issue now is the hardcore players have too much else to do (trials and PoE) to want to run VoG when they already have everything from the raid. That leaves people coming into the game late who are just looking for the VoG guns. These people don't have oracle disruptor, can't run the relic, and apparently can't jump from platform to platform. My friends and I 4 man this raid every week as 34's and rarely ever wipe, don't go up top for oracles or Templar, and play the raid the way it's supposed to be played.