I will apologize. Have serious anger issues. I take it out on the wrong people sometimes, sorry Guardian.
Anyway, so these two Guardians are the undisputed best? I just find that hard to believe because as soon as they are slated the best you will have 40 other Guardians claiming to be better is all. I will never use the Thorn period, lol. I'm way too bad at PvP to get the bounty complete.
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It's all good man, and there's a website called destiny tracker where you can see the leaderboards for pvp in destiny, and up at top is usually triple wreck or luminosity48. I also watch there lives streams on twitch.com to learn some of there play styles and tactics.
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Lol, if anyone needs help with play style, and tactics it's me Dude! I had the worst luck in IB. I play well, my team loses. I play like crap and we win? PS. my version of doing well is any form of 1 or higher K/D and say 3000 points? So that's why it takes me forever. I bet most of you guys can reach level 5 in 2 or 3 days if that?