Thanks BelleBunny you're the best. A shining ray of Light to dispel the forces of hateful darkness.

Yep this issue is much bigger than gaming, gender, race or whatever. It's an individual problem. Individuals who feel that freedom of speech justifies or excuses the method of delivery of that speech really missed the point. Hyperbole example: [i]Exchanging opinions and why you have a certain position w/o any intention to permit anger to escalate to action against another individual is freedom of speech and permits you to stay in a community that doesn't share your views. This is acceptable. Using your voice to express violence or desire to harm another individual with intention to escalate to action intended or not, is not free speech. If it was terrorists could threaten all they want without fear of retaliation, regardless of actions of other terrorist individuals.[/i]. Thanks to globalization we are gaining a more global identity recognizing we're a human family. The only race that matters is the human race because we are born into it. It encompasses to include any differentiating criteria anyone can come up with. Violence, anger that motivates ill-will against each other, and threats of harm have no place among us. If you don't think that girls should play games, share your reasons, be vocal in discussions of the reasons you feel that way. You have every right in this global community. You also have a right to being treated as a member of our human race community. [i]That being said:[/i] Exemplified by old westerns when people that maintained a certain way of life (rustlers, gun fighters, womanizers, etc) came into town, into a [i]community[/i] of peace loving people they would be met with a warning by the law-enforcers representing that town that they were welcome until there was a threat to the way of life (or peace) of that community. If that threat arose as a result of behavior, verbal or otherwise they would be ejected from the community on a rail. As non-violently as the offender would permit. These examples are the reason I have my opinion anyone can play what they want how they want as long as it promotes more peace loving people who want to "play". Because let's face it, we're all playing.

Bitch this "drama" was so like last week or so. -blam!- outta here with this bs and go fix a pimp a drink. lol

Belle, I won't really apologize since I wasn't really playing destiny then, and moreover- I don't really hang out with the community so much these days. And as I've learned from my fiancé, apologizing without a reason is meaningless. That being said: I empathize with the plight of gaming as a community. Regardless of what everyone says this all boils down to just basic. Human. Decency. And we're all animals. It's just to what degree. I am glad this has been a learning experience for you and the dames. Should you have any beer or bacon to spare, and you can find us, you can hire WizCorp! (Or you know, send us friend requests or whatever.) To everyone else- It is your prerogative to have your clan be what you want. You want it for 18-inch long wieners, have at it. If you want it to be for gay/straight/black/white/green/Christian/Islamic/German/Chinese/hentai pride, go for it. But while this is the internet, the days of wild-west style freedom (at least in the U.S.) is coming to a bit of a close. I can't say I'm sad to see it go, but you did this to yourselves. Now if we (mind if I use that term loosely?) don't clean up the act a little, you all might find that one day, before you know it, not the grammar police, the actual police might come a'knockin on your door. It's already happening! An old marine told me once: "your rights end where mine begins. Sometimes that's how it goes, other times it's not. But if you treat everyone like that, you'll never need to run from the MP's" - SGT "chick" puller, USMC, RET. Signed, Josh "Wizardmanguy" K. ...definitely not ~TheGreatNike (edited)

@lnf3Rn0 Dear God dude. fundamentally sexist? Really? If the Dames choose to play with Girls then that's their choice. If for no other reason than to know that they are not going to have to put up with a bunch of bull from the Toxic Minority. It's not sexist. Its a choice. She brought this on herself? My oh My.,A girl Gamer brings hate just by being a girl gamer and joining a clan that she feels is a safe/good choice as a girl gamer. So by your process. A girl going for a night out and dressing nice making herself look good to feel good Deserves anything bad that happens to her. You sir are an ASS!!!!. Muted forever. @Belle, I followed the furor during and after the games. As a male gamer and a Clan member (My own Clan) I was absolutely disgusted by the messages and comments. Unfortunately their is a generation that feels the Internet is a place where they can say whatever they want to whomever they want with no consequences. The same people will be very vocal in this post. Killing them with kindness might not be the answer. A mute/ignore button isn't the answer (although it helps). Educating these people is probably never going to happen. They are going to go through life looking for the minority to rage on to make themselves feel good. Hopefully in the future there will be an enhanced option for console gamers to Delete/Block/Report and be rid of these people. I wish your Dames all the best with your gaming future and hope that by sharing this you can educate at least one person

I remember when harass was 2 words