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8/5/2015 5:52:15 PM
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So you want to treat women like shit in the name of equality?
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It's the internet. Everyone gets treated like shit in the face of anonymity.
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That is a weak shit excuse.
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Sorry if you think the truth is a "weak shit" excuse. I didn't make the internet what it is today. [spoiler] juggle mah nuts biznitto [/spoiler]
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I am not arguing whether or not the internet is cesspool full of terrible people who get big balls with the anonymity that hiding behind a keyboard provides. People like yourself. It most certainly is. What I am curious about is why so many knuckleheads like yourself feel the need to defend or justify this particular type of douchebaggery. When the douchebaggery is racist in nature, do you jump in to defend, or make excuses for the racists? If one of the players on the stream was black and people started throwing N-bombs at them, would you be so eager to justify it? Because, "hey, everyone is an asshole on the internet."
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I'm defending the age old tradition of shit talking. It's funny in my opinion but not everyone has thick skin and a sense of humor. You should really not let mere words affect the way you feel. Hell, my sister and I greet each other in such a fashion. She says "hey bitch" and I say "what up hooker". We love each other and know better than to let words affect how we feel about ourselves. My favorite line from her was, in a game of halo, "you like frolicking through this tentacle forest don't ya bitch". I laughed, we played some more, end of story. I'm sorry if you're too sensitive to handle it. Again, not my fault you're a bit soft.
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Edited by Sun Valley King: 8/5/2015 7:20:52 PMI am all about shit talking. From the sounds of it, your family is a lot like mine. We say "-blam!- you" a whole lot more than "I love you". But the thing is, if I know that someone can't handle it, I don't talk shit to them pure and simple. I have definitely crossed the line more than once and genuinely hurt someones feelings, and I always feel like shit when I do because that wasn't my intent. As it relates to the internet and what anonymous people have to say about me, I couldn't care less. But some people do. With that knowledge I don't talk shit to complete strangers. As a general rule, I don't talk shit to women unless I know them REALLY well. If you wouldn't drop an N-bomb on a black person, why would you think that it is ok to tell a complete stranger to "get back in the kitchen", or threaten to -blam!- them?. If you are talking shit to people knowing that they will not take it well, you are an asshole.
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Point taken and I agree, the whole r@pe comment is out of line but I still feel they can verbally defend themselves should the need arise or just mute the asshat. The only way to get rid of people like that is to ignore their existence. By making these posts we're just giving them more publicity. As for racial slurs, it doesn't bother me as a Latino married to a mean ole blatina (she's half black and spaniard so I call her my little blatina. She loves it lol). Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes.
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Not everyone is wired like you and me though. I didn't always understand that. So I would say something to someone and it would piss them off, and I would be like, "I'm just kidding man". Once I almost got into a fight with a Mexican guy that I was very friendly with and had worked with for years because I jokingly said, "chinga tu madre" to him. I didn't mean anything by it, and I had said far worse to him in the past (in my mind anyway). But for him, his mom was off limits. I didn't know and I almost had to throw down because of it. Definitely not my intention. Knowing where to draw that line is important. When I don't know where that line is, I don't even chance it. As it relates to this case, there were probably a few people that didn't mean to be assholes, but most of them probably knew exactly what they were doing. I am not going to say that they were justified because I have thicker skin than most.
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If they want all the positives males get then they have to takd the negatives, otherwise its not "equality".
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So they are faced with the choice between being treated like shit in the name of "equality" or knowing their place and falling in line as being subservient to men? Wow, I can't understand why women would feel the need to create their own clan. Those seem like two really attractive options.
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Hey Im already treated like shit for being a guy. Why should someone get all the benefits I do with zero of the drawbacks. Am I saying being treated like shit is right? -blam!- no, Im one of the first to call out assholes regardless if their target is male or female. But to say that there is a sexism issue because women are being trash talked like the guys are is being completely obtuse.
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There most certainly is a sexism issue. Sure, some of it was just assholes being assholes. I don't know that I could break out any kind of percentages for you, but a lot of the garbage that was being flung at the Dames was most certainly sexist. To say otherwise is just ignorant. Now the question becomes why someone would defend that kind of behavior because, "hey it's the internet." It is a -blam!-ing cop out. Saying that "people treat me like shit, so it should be okay to treat them like shit" is the worst possible response that you could have to something like this.
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Edited by Christopher : 8/5/2015 7:00:14 PMThe talk that was thrown at the was gender specific yes, but no language is sexist. The person flinging such comments would be the one being sexist. Also if you read my post I did say that I dont exxcuse this kind of behavior. But if you believe that one group should be more exempt from it because of what gender they are born then you arnt living in reality.
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So you are saying that it isn't ok to be an asshole, but if one group is treated like shit, all groups should be treated like shit. If you want to talk about living in reality, there are most definitely double standards that exist. If the insults had been racist in nature, I bet that you wouldn't be so eager to say that it is no big deal. Racism is treated more harshly than sexism is because reasons. If you really feel that you shouldn't treat anybody like shit, how about you be the change that you want to see and stop defending or at the very least justifying the bad behavior of assholes?
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If the clan was somthing like "Black Panthers of Destiny" I would codemn the statments but still understand why the other side made thosd comments. Hurtful comments to ANY group is somthing that shouldnt happen but when a group focuses on just the hurtful comments dirrected to them and not the general uncivilized manner of all such comments they paint themselves as thinking they are more important.
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Edited by Sun Valley King: 8/5/2015 7:36:54 PMComparing the Dames of Destiny to a fictional "Black Panthers of Destiny" is a false equivalency. It seems like you are upset because a group like Dames of Destiny exists in the first place. You talked about living in reality earlier. The reality is that female gamers are treated like shit because a large part of the gaming community is comprised of immature shithead boys. That is why groups like Dames of Destiny exists in the first place. "But Bungie shouldn't promote a group that doesn't allow men, that is sexist." I have seen that argument a lot. I disagree. Some of the lesser members of this community have already thoroughly demonstrated why groups like the Dames exist. About Bungie promoting them? I don't have a problem with that either. Let's say someone had a younger sister or daughter that was 12 to 16 years old and loved to play Destiny. The problem is that none of her friends play the game and if she wants to experience some the end game content like raids she has to rely on things like LFG. The overwhelming majority of Destiny players are male, and every time she goes to LFG to find a group she has a good chance of ending in a group with at least one asshole (or more) who inevitably end up harassing her. As a result she doesn't want to do that end game content because it just isn't worth the hassle. Now she sees the Dame featured on Bungie.net. There is a group that she can join that will allow her to enjoy end game content without having to be worried about being harassed by assholes. Is there really a problem with that?
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[quote]The talk that was thrown at the was gender specific yes, but no language is sexist. The person flinging such comments would be the one being sexist.[/quote] Care to revise that statement? Because it doesn't make any God damn sense.
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Sexism is the hate of another person because of their gender or preceived sex. Words can not hate, they can express hate but words themselves can not hate or be sexist.
