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8/5/2015 6:41:23 PM
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There most certainly is a sexism issue. Sure, some of it was just assholes being assholes. I don't know that I could break out any kind of percentages for you, but a lot of the garbage that was being flung at the Dames was most certainly sexist. To say otherwise is just ignorant. Now the question becomes why someone would defend that kind of behavior because, "hey it's the internet." It is a -blam!-ing cop out.
Saying that "people treat me like shit, so it should be okay to treat them like shit" is the worst possible response that you could have to something like this.
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Edited by Christopher : 8/5/2015 7:00:14 PMThe talk that was thrown at the was gender specific yes, but no language is sexist. The person flinging such comments would be the one being sexist. Also if you read my post I did say that I dont exxcuse this kind of behavior. But if you believe that one group should be more exempt from it because of what gender they are born then you arnt living in reality.
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So you are saying that it isn't ok to be an asshole, but if one group is treated like shit, all groups should be treated like shit. If you want to talk about living in reality, there are most definitely double standards that exist. If the insults had been racist in nature, I bet that you wouldn't be so eager to say that it is no big deal. Racism is treated more harshly than sexism is because reasons. If you really feel that you shouldn't treat anybody like shit, how about you be the change that you want to see and stop defending or at the very least justifying the bad behavior of assholes?
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If the clan was somthing like "Black Panthers of Destiny" I would codemn the statments but still understand why the other side made thosd comments. Hurtful comments to ANY group is somthing that shouldnt happen but when a group focuses on just the hurtful comments dirrected to them and not the general uncivilized manner of all such comments they paint themselves as thinking they are more important.
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Edited by Sun Valley King: 8/5/2015 7:36:54 PMComparing the Dames of Destiny to a fictional "Black Panthers of Destiny" is a false equivalency. It seems like you are upset because a group like Dames of Destiny exists in the first place. You talked about living in reality earlier. The reality is that female gamers are treated like shit because a large part of the gaming community is comprised of immature shithead boys. That is why groups like Dames of Destiny exists in the first place. "But Bungie shouldn't promote a group that doesn't allow men, that is sexist." I have seen that argument a lot. I disagree. Some of the lesser members of this community have already thoroughly demonstrated why groups like the Dames exist. About Bungie promoting them? I don't have a problem with that either. Let's say someone had a younger sister or daughter that was 12 to 16 years old and loved to play Destiny. The problem is that none of her friends play the game and if she wants to experience some the end game content like raids she has to rely on things like LFG. The overwhelming majority of Destiny players are male, and every time she goes to LFG to find a group she has a good chance of ending in a group with at least one asshole (or more) who inevitably end up harassing her. As a result she doesn't want to do that end game content because it just isn't worth the hassle. Now she sees the Dame featured on Bungie.net. There is a group that she can join that will allow her to enjoy end game content without having to be worried about being harassed by assholes. Is there really a problem with that?
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[quote]The talk that was thrown at the was gender specific yes, but no language is sexist. The person flinging such comments would be the one being sexist.[/quote] Care to revise that statement? Because it doesn't make any God damn sense.
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Sexism is the hate of another person because of their gender or preceived sex. Words can not hate, they can express hate but words themselves can not hate or be sexist.
