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Freedom of Speech If you don't like what people call you maybe you should get off online gaming. You girls are so sensitive over a video game. Grow up or GTFO.
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  • Exactly, men get harassed by eachother like crazy and argue. We don't post shit

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  • Yeah I get called names too and you don't see me make a video about it.

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  • You clearly didn't watch the video, you obviously don't have even a basic understanding of the 1st Amendment, and without a doubt your grasp of irony--simultaneously holding such simple and childish views while exhorting someone else to "grow up"--is seriously lacking.

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  • I watched the video and I'm pissed that I'm not going to get those 15 minutes of my life back.

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  • Just because you have freedom of speech doesn't mean you should just go around slandering and degrading others. Or threatening them for that matter. That's just wrong. Have some civility

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  • As long as I don't hurt the person it's all good.

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  • Figured you would say something like that. Just play the blame game. "No, it's not my fault, it's their decision, not mine." Do you even take the time to consider your actions? Or even think about what you're saying? Eh, who cares? So long as YOU'RE not the one getting hurt. It really is saddening to see some people see absolutely nothing wrong with these situations, when they couldn't be further from the truth. Like yourself. Bravo, keyboard warrior. Bravo

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  • Why would I take the time to think about my actions? As long as I'm not hurting that specific person I see no reason to.

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  • Yeah. Then it's all good and dandy Except what about the mental and psychological harm you could be causing? Right that probably doesn't matter to you. What about if they decide to end their life because they just can't handle the abuse anymore? Nah, that still wouldn't matter to you. Not your life, not your problem right? Well it does matter. Your words have an impact on everyone, whether you're directing them at someone or not. So think twice about what you say

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  • Naw it doesn't matter to me. If they want to slit their wrists or jump off a cliff that's their choice not mine. I didn't force them to do something like that. Everybody is responsible for their own actions.

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    So if you're wearing an orange sweater and someone ups and suicides over it because their granddad -blam!- him while wearing an orange sweater, you should just not wear orange sweaters? Fine, it's an extreme example. But reality is that how someone takes something is up to the receiver. Minding your words because someone might take issue with it is very reactionary, when the overlying problem is that people don't have a self-image stemming from an internal source instead of external sources. Which is basically a flaw with society at large... And not an easy fix.

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  • But other people can at least help the problem and not be a complete jerk to someone else for kicks and giggles

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  • Freedom of speech is not freedom to be a dick. By your logic the kkk is fine to preach their hate.

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  • In all fairness they are free to preach hate as long as they don't incite violence. But, freedom of speech is not a thing on a privately held game service so its irrelevant

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  • Actually, no. Hate crimes and hate speech are illegal. If you want a prime example of why this shouldn't be considered hate speech, look at what's happening to Amos Yee in Singapore. There's worse shit out there related to free speech.

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  • Actually they ARE. They still hold rallies and are active to this day. Just so you know.

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  • Freedom of speech doesn't excuse a person from being held responsible for thier words. Example: I can't be a manager, hire a new employee, then say, "welcome to the team, n*gger." And expect not to be held legally liable or responsible by saying, "hey, freedom of speech, man." You're a perfect example of people who take one small aspect of a law and not see the whole picture. Smh. People are still liable for thier words and behavior. Freedom of speech gives you the rope, but you can still hang yourself by it. Freedom of speech allows you to actually f*ck yourself, not protect you. Again, see aforementioned example. Genius.

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  • You're not going to be held "legally liable"; you'd probably just get fired.

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  • You can get fired, because your employer doesn't have to keep you hired based on the constitution. Freedom of speech only applies to getting in legal troubles for what you say. If you own a business and say welcome to the team n!gger, you have every right to say that. Odds are, that person will just not work for you anymore.

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  • That's what I mean. I guess I didn't convey my thoughts. Some people have wrote that they can say what they want because of freedom of speech. You can say it, but there are still consequences. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequence. You and I are saying the same thing, I just think I didn't convey my meaning correctly

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  • Edited by IxI Razgriz IxI: 8/6/2015 2:19:03 PM
    Ah I see. Yeah there can be consequences, but most time, there actually aren't. I'm a pretty big advocate of being able to say whatever you want. I grew up in a farm town that was all tractors, foot ball, and bros. I liked video games and going outside sucked, bugs, it's hot, it's humid, it's kinda boring depending on what you're doing. I got picked on, A LOT. I just dealt with it with humor and brushed it off because they are just words. I don't know why people take offense so easily. I mean yeah, it's not "nice" but I'm not sure why we have to spotlight it. I'm a big advocate of equal rights, being nice and all that good stuff. But you're not goin to change people, and eventually you're going to run into someone who is an ass AND has a different opinion from your own. Might as well not be a squishy.

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  • I've always lived in city environments. People can be mean. But you can change society. You MUST change society. It has to be. A society that does grow becomes extinct. Take Sparta or the Roman Empire for example. Smoking was advertised as the cool thing to do and was available is all restaurants. How is smoking viewed and accepted today. Government raises the taxes more and more until people can't afford to smoke. Is it still "cool" by the majority standard? How many restaurants still have a smoking section compared to 40 years ago. Approximately 60 years ago women could even vote, 50 African Americans weren't equal. Around 70 years ago Japanese Americans were put in American concentration camps on the west coast. Online bullying is getting legal and court attention. This may seem like a long time to you, but all of this can occur in one persons life time. What will change during your lifetime? How will the world look when you reach the end of your days? I'm excited to see what tomorrow brings.

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  • We can change society, but you can't change people. If you get what I mean, people meaning the individual. Yeah, socially smoking has gone down, racism has gone down, sexism....etc. but it still exists. I'm not saying that the world can't and won't change. But at the micro scale, the individual level, it Will remain. And being an asshole is a personal trait I'm pretty sure lol lol

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  • Oh, yes. You're absolutely right. Sorry. Yes.

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  • Yes you have freedom of speech but you don't get that freedom with out consequences

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