the negativity is only there because the game deserves it. name one hand cannon that is as good as Fatebringer in PvE. I have a Shadow Price that is currently stronger than Suros due to the nerfing and it carries 42 ammo - it's better than any auto rifle released since and I use it in PvP right now and it's very good. I don't think most players expect an AR to do what it does and I think I get kills because everyone now thinks ARs suck. if bungle had/would make weapons that are EQUAL (not even better) to the vanilla guns there would be no discontent, but they haven't/aren't. no one would care that the old gear was being negated if everything that's come out after day one wasn't a disappointment. people are concerned that TTK will be a continuation of the quality we've already been underwhelmed with, and for good reason.

I dont use AR's but Ill Will is a bad ass cannon. So is Six dreg pride.