[quote]Take a thorn and shoot chief. The tick will affect him regardless of whether the bullet hits his flesh. Using a tether (which also does significant damage) and a smoke bomb would make Chief unable to do jack shit. Then the Guardian could place a spike grenade on chief, which would do rapid and direct damage. A fusion rifle would easily deal large damage to chief, and a cluster bomb rocket launcher wouldn't help his chances. I know chief is strong and fast, but what would he honestly do against someone just as durable who has better gear?[/quote] The thorn would be ok but it would be hitting his shields first. They have flashlights and night vision built into their helmets. You can shoot spike grenades out of the air. Fusions rifles and just kill a Guardian. Cluster rockets? He would throw the rocket back at you. Someone who has better gear, really?