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Edited by Star Gazer2:
8/6/2015 1:08:29 PM
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Thank you, finally someone on the forums with some brains who knows this game is not an mmo and should not be treated as such.
not to mention bungie LITERALLY said this:
[quote]Caballero: Do you guys ever get tired of people calling it an MMO?
Not at all. [b]Do you guys ever get tired of us insisting it’s not an MMO?[/b] Debate about this game is always fun, and we welcome it. The ideas that are shaping Destiny come from a lot of different places. We’re drawing the best elements from experiences we love. Like an MMO, our game will compel you to explore. You’ll embody a character that evolves on that journey. Unlike an MMO, the entire experience is built around heart-pounding action that you’ll see through the eyes of your hero.
Ultimately, we’re looking forward to knowing how you describe Destiny, once you’ve played it. [/quote]
[quote][b]Do you guys ever get tired of us insisting it’s not an MMO?[/b][/quote]
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Regardless of what you think it is, they are treating it like a mmofps come ttk. They tried the fps/rpg thing this entire first year and failed. Now it's time for this game to be how it should of been all along. People can gripe all they want but guess what? You will have to either get over it or move along.
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Edited by southbysouthwest: 8/6/2015 6:28:15 PM[quote][b]Do you guys ever get tired of us insisting it’s not an MMO?[/b][/quote][quote][b]insisting it's not an MMO[/b][/quote][quote][b]it's not an MMO[/b][/quote][quote][b][i][u]not an MMO[/u][/i][/b][/quote][quote][quote][quote][b][i][u]an[/u][/i][/b][/quote][/quote][/quote]
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Move on
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I've been arguing with people about this for days now. DESTINY IS NOT AN MMO!!!!!!!!! fireteams of 6 is far from a massive experience. It's a shooter with RPG elements. It has no "real" open world and the economy system is total garbage. NOT AN MMO!
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Edited by TheBran127: 8/6/2015 6:03:08 PMYou're saying it shouldnt be treated as an MMO but Bungie clearly is. Bungie has said that Destiny is not an MMO, sure, but it can't be denied they are designing many aspects of the game to act like one. Your tantrums here on the forums about the official genre this game is or should be won't change the fact that Bungie is treating much of the mechanics of this game like an MMO. So in other words 2.0 balance is happening. Year 1 weapons and gear are not progressing. lol This is not changing the consensus of the player base on whether Destiny is an MMO or not. Its kind of silly really, the argument is futile. Even if everyone was to agree and say "you're right! Destiny is not an MMO..." isn't going to stop the changes from happening.
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Edited by Star Gazer2: 8/6/2015 1:58:23 PM"It's still an mmo guys, get over it..." Basically the fallback for every mmo argument on the forums. How little people think. But feel free to use the earlier quote from Bungie themselves to make your arguments stronger.
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My argument is that this is an mmorpg. Reason? Well it has every typical mmorpg feature. People refuse to say it's one but don't give ANY counter evidence to it. To argue, "supposedly" my weapons will become obsolete when ttk comes. If that's going to be a thing, then this cannot be called anything other than an mmorpg because mmorpg's have better great every dlc that just makes your current stuff "useless." Typical mmorpg trait
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Edited by Star Gazer2: 8/6/2015 10:53:52 PMIt has mmo elements, but that does not make it an mmo. Borderlands has mmo elements, but it is not an mmo. Diablo has mmo elements, but it is not an mmo. Dot Hack (if you have ever heard of that game), also has MMO elements, but not a MMO. Fun fact: mmo = massive multiplayer online Also, Planetside 2 is labeled as an mmo because it is massive multiplayer online. There is also this bit of info of what makes a real mmo: http://www.gamebreaker.tv/news-main/mmorpg/what-makes-a-mmo-a-real-mmo/ http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/599/PlanetSide-2.html
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its not an mmo, it just has about every aspect of mmos, which means its basicly an mmo.
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Borderlands has mmo aspects, Diablo has mmo aspects, are those mmos?
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pretty much, what people don't get is they limit the size of teams and amount of people because if you went to cosmodrone with 1000's of players running around you wouldn't be able to get shit done, its smaller instance based zones for a reason...and the limitations of consoles come into play as well. dungeons and dragons is an mmo and its all instance based areas, only place you see a lot of people is in the main towns
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You say console limitations, but what a lbout Final Fantasy 14, that plays on the ps3, ps4, and pc, you play with 1000s of players from all 3 systems at the same time, 24 person raids that have so much going on you can't even see your avatar, console limitations aren't entirely valid, bungie designed this game one way, and are trying to make it something it wasn't designed to be
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Edited by Eyes Alive: 8/6/2015 1:51:47 PMNope. Borderlands is like Destiny RPG SHOOTER. Diablo is a loot grind with only 4 people tops. YES people Destiny DOES have elements of an MMO but it shouldn't be treated as such and we certainly shouldn't have to regrind for new gear and guns every new year and DLC. It is a shooter at heart so LET US USE WHATEVER FRICKIN GUNS WE WANT TO USE....end of story.
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you should probably play a different fps
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You can use what ever gun you want...it just might not be as powerful as the new weapons...no one is telling you you can't use current weapons but your weapons may be under powered to the enemies
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That is a very stupid model. Why even add etheric light if it is obsolete only 4 months later?
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Because it is... 4 months later? If you can't get enough use out of a gun in 4 months, even playing only an hour a day, then you got some issues. That is over 120 hours (minimum) of gameplay enjoying that gun because of that 1 etheric light. How many games do you have that you even still play after 120 hours? And even after all that, those guns will still be useful and relevant with all content before this DLC as well as regular Crucible. It still has its place in the game and can be used in those parts, just not the new content, because it has become outdated and the game world has outgrown it, as it should. I hate to say it (actually, I don't), but your argument is what is really stupid here, and exceptionally petty at that. [spoiler]Go ahead and reply with some salty tears response. Get those crayons out and start scribbling your reply. Prove to everyone how entitled and sad you are as an individual. I'm waiting for it...[/spoiler]
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Dude I play a LOT of games and I never needed a new gun every 4 months to keep the game fun. I mean shit is everyone frickin ADD these days? Hell the games I grew up playing gave you like 1 or 2 guns and they were still fun. FUN is not about ALWAYS getting new guns it's about enjoying the gameplay and guns you like to use...Simple.
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So you still play the same games, same content, use the same gear for months and years on end? No need for any change, just doing the same thing over and over? Wow.. you sound like a very boring and simple person. But hey, if that works for you...
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Everyone is different. To each their own. I played Dark Souls for over 300 hours and didn't need to switch up much gear after I found my favorite loadout. It's not like I ONLY use 1loadout for Destiny. Hell I use different guns ALL the time in crucible. The point is we should be able to pick and choose from a FULL arsenal not just what's hot off the press. Again just my opinion
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I'm sensing you don't really like change, do you? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) The fact is you will still be able to use all of those guns you have, and they'll work perfectly fine with all the content that currently exists in the game, and still remain valid even in crucible (where you mentioned you use lots of them) where attack power isn't a factor. It just makes sense that as you move forward into new content that you find new gear to experience it with; this is pretty much a common theme in almost every game. They did mention something about gear being used to 'upgrade' other gear in the same slot. So perhaps you'll still be able to carry over that cosmetic look, or specific perk in some way? We don't really know for sure since they were pretty vague on those details. I'll admit I'm pretty impressed you didn't take the troll bait and just start flinging expletives everywhere; gotta respect that. I think you are clinging onto something minor way too much and it could keep you from appreciating and enjoying what TTK has to offer, but as you said, that is your choice... and your opinion.
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LOL No I am not a Troll. I like to be reasonable even if I may or may not like change..lol. You actually have some really good points there and in a way it makes a lot of sense and I never thought about it that way. Sorry if I didn't take the bait. Thanks for not being a douche to me for voicing my opinion :) Maybe I'll come along for the TTK ride afterall :)
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Yeah, when I first see a comment from someone that is as brash as yours appeared to me: [quote]That is a very stupid model. Why even add etheric light if it is obsolete only 4 months later?[/quote] I couldn't help myself and went into troll mode to start out. But as you replied and gave a background for your reasoning; though I didn't agree; I saw how it might look from your point of view. Though usually after I post my first brash trolling response, things go downhill. I realized when you didn't drop into that slump in your reply, that though we had differing views that you weren't just being abrasively harsh about the game and hating on it for no reason. Its nice to be surprised with a few level headed responses and that you actually did look at some of my points as well. If you still aren't sure, like I've told several friends, just wait for the reviews, and twitch footage that will surely come upon TTK's release and verify that it really does have enough of what you want. Everyone has a different opinion on what is value for them. Personally with the game informer information, there is enough details now for me to finally know that I will purchase TTK. With 1000+ hours enjoyed in this game (as I play on XB1 and PS4), there is more than enough content now listed for me to get far more than my money's worth. Perhaps if it is enough for you, I'll see you star side fellow guardian!
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Thanks buddy I think I will be getting TTK I do really like playing this game and I guess I just need to hope it will evolve in the right way. Thanks for "talking it out" with me...LOL Maybe I'll see you on the battlefield fellow guardian
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So you could get one last bang out your weapons...with out e.light your weapon would have been partially phased out by now...they just gave you a little more time
