Hello, I haven't read you whole post but I did read in brief why you thought destiny wasn't an mmo when it very much is. 1. Weapons. Weapons in destiny are very much stat sticks. Just because you are aiming and shooting not just clicking 1-10 to do an action make it feel otherwise. Rate of fire Impact Reload speed Range. Stability are all rated from 0-100. Then you have skills on the gun. These are things that are exactly in wow. Just under different names. The only thing that is different here is the perspective on how you play. It involves you more. 2. Expansions that overwrite the previous. That's exactly what TTK is doing. It's out dating the older stuff and moving on to the new. Old content is for the most part staying untouched and new content is being added. The levelling not system has totally changed. This expansion does exactly what you claim all MMOS do. This is why people are getting into a stink. This game by its very nature, core and being is an mmo. The people that don't accept this are the ones that seem to have the problem. If you compare wow and this there aren't many differences save the perspective.