I own the full weapon set from VoG, Crota's End, Iron Banner and Osiris. With all armor from it (including IB first and second season) plus every exotic.... I don't use them all but to me they're like trophies/achievements and some were really hard to get, so despite understanding an MMO type game, I kinda feel robbed by bungie... :/ And Vanilla destiny weapons are better then Crota's and better then HoW, so let's see how good or bad the TTK weapons will be