yes, but the guns themselves fire and feel different. For example, i have a red hand that handles heavier than my Venation 3 (or vise versa I can't remember exactly at the moment.) Same goes for other hand cannons, word of rota feels horrible, whereas fate bring and other hand cannons feel much better when fired, including devil you don't that you mentioned. I dont understand the push for this by so many. Why do people care if other people still want to keep and use fate bringer as a viable option in their battles in TTK? I don't understand how someone else wanting to use fate bringer at all affects your ability or want or need to use the new weapons instead. Which is why most people who think about this logically are saying, why can't we just have th option? If the guns they release are so much better, than wouldn't people want to get rid of their old stuff for the new anyway? [b] This is the main point here. If the new stuff is so much better, which you and many believe, than why are they afraid we will want to still use our year 1 legendaries instead of them?[/b]