Kid, you don't know shit. I have a friend who is in the top 20 Titans on ps4. He is pretty damn good, lands his shots and snipes like a beast. But he can't beat me in rumble consistently unless he uses thorn or a last word, he simply can't our kill me or will only trade with me one on one. I play with some extremely good little bitches who all use thorn, last word, felwinters, and blink. All shitty cheap bitch things to use because of the huge advantages they grant.