Eh. if entitled means i want a game that is and was boasted to be absolutely mind blowing, but ends up being quite repetitive and only keeps me playing because i want to see what the end game is through the grind, THEN gives us the hope of being able to pick and choose the best guns available to be upgraded and made equal to all others in damage, only to have my dreams dashed by guns that do far more damage only because they made them as such, thus making all my hard work for a year obsolete, then yes. I feel entitled. I feel entitled to what i was promised, i feel entitled to a game that is advertised as a 10 year game im going to want to play, and i feel entitled to doing all that i can that is possible to make that game make me want to come back - not because of its marketing, but because of its honest, known content and developers that listen to the suggestions of the community and its opinions on there business practices. You don't buy a new car to find out its just gotten good paint, the miles have been rolled back, the interior had been slightly refurbished to look good but was kinda infested, had temporary air freshener and suddenly its smells terrible in the heat when you use it the next day - without going back to the normally reputable dealer who sold you this car and trying to get them to fix the problem. Or to find out that they wont do anything else to help fix that car - but they will easily try to sell you this OTHER brand new one, promising that they fixed (most) of the problems that plagued your old one. Anyone and everyone would want that first car fixed or the second one they want to sell you at one deep, deep discount. Now apply all of the above to Destiny, and be enlightened.

You don't buy a new car without putting research into it and determining if the value of the car is worth your money. The same can be said with any usage of money. If you don't take the time and effort to research and determine if a product is what you desire before you buy it, the blame is on yourself.

Cars have Lemon Laws.. many of the people here played the Alpha and Beta and were sold on this product by the Developers commentary in the E3 2013 GAME PLAY reveal,,, that's enough homework ,, so you pretty much dont know shit

I know cars have lemons laws, and if you believe the E3 gameplay was enough research to buy a game then it's still your fault you didn't decide to put more research into the product. If you didn't read my later conversation with Tarnus you'd know I think the whole pre-ordering thing needs to be scraped and I believe that because it's a terrible business model and many players invest themselves into games without proper reviews.

I will admit, not the best analogy. Problem is with a car, its done, changed, thats it. BUT with Destiny, they can make changes whenever they want. And before launch, could anyone have adequately done research on destiny? We cant know how a 10 year plan is going to play out, no one could have told me that vanilla guns weren't as good as TDB in damage, no one could have told me vanilla guns would become better than HoW because they could be upgraded, OR that it would all be absolutely pointless in a year No one could have told me how this game was going to turn out as i went to buy it. - it would be like buying a car while its being built; all these cool upgrades are being put in and its really nice, but then they say that after a year of using it, they are going to rebuild trhe car from scratch and you still have to pay them for it. They cant tell you everything that is being built into it becuase they are making the plans as they go. Above all else, i just want them to make a good game that i want to play - not because i already own it, but because it is genuinely good.

I'd agree no one could of told you before launch if the game was worthwhile or not, but that's more of an issue with the way games are handled these days. The whole notion of pre-ordering is flawed in my opinion and that's quite a problem we have in this industry. Another good point is you're right no one could of told you the future plans for the DLC's, but it's not like they didn't make changes. They've made effort to change things in this game, they just can't add everything everyone wants and I would definitely say last gen is definitely limiting this game's potential (coming from a guy who plays on 360).

Im on 360 too, one because i don't have the money to switch, two because there aren't enough worth while games to make me switch ( fallout 4 is enough to make me switch now though) and finally, i don't want to give up on my old games ( fallout series ftw, i know there is going to be backwards compatibility, but its not here yet so im not considering it my checklist as "check" - can you tell i like fallout) . Hopefully they continue to make changes to this game that make it all the more worthwhile. And pre-ordering. that needs to be fixed or done away with.