But they're not including powered crucible, like iron banner and ToO. Those are where your loadout matters most, I personally just have fun and do challenges in normal PVP. Also, I'm sick of the "Crucible is sill okay because level advantages are disabled". That doesn't excuse every other aspect of the game. Oh, you want to use icebreaker? Well it's no good for anything past level 34. Same goes for Necrochasm and gally and all other exotics that are getting ignored.