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originally posted in: THE NO EXOTIC LEFT BEHIND PROGRAM
8/21/2015 8:44:33 PM
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https://youtu.be/__arO-w5G-M?t=41m DeeJ: "But you're only bringing some of those exotics forward?" Tyson: "Yeah, only some of those are coming forward [b]right now[/b], but any exotic that we bring forward they will be the upgraded versions" Are you sure you guys aren't jumping the gun too quickly? When I heard this line I knew that not all exotics were coming but the rest would eventually show up.
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  • Gally staying the same is just a way to get us to buy is upgrade for a $1

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  • I know you're trying to be funny or whatever but at this point there is no way Bungie is going to do microtransactions. It would be literal suicide worse than what they are doing now. Don't take this incompetence for malice.

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  • Microtransactions, probably not. But if their sales aren't what they're expecting, I wouldn't be surprised if the next DLC or major expansion afterwards said they were going to bring back the Gjally.

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  • I know what you mean but maybe it's because I'm an adult that I wouldn't even blame them for it. If the next DLC had a TK Gjallahorn my reaction would be "Oh so that's the ace up their sleeves". Everything happens for a reason in the business world, and I'm ok with it as long as my money is going towards content that will give me about 40 hours of entertainment. I'm ok with DLC, microtransactions can suck a dick though.

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  • I understand the money vs time played argument, and I've played my fair share of this game, but I honestly don't want other games to follow Destiny's example. They are creating more play time through having players repeating the same processes for a chance at getting specific items. And while it's addicting to get that one item and getting a dopamine rush, I wouldn't want to play every game that way. To keep things that way, they only need to put in minimal effort in the gameplay side of things and create more items for players to chase after. This process for 10 years is going to be very exhausting and at the end of a 10 year cycle I want to have played a game dense in story and player experiences and not just show off my virtual exotic gun penis. As for microtransactions, I can't say Bungie would never do it. Activision has already done this with CoD, so I honestly would be surprised if Destiny ended up the same way. It might not even end up as a play to win game, but microtransactions with shaders, emotes and maybe engrams? I could actually see this happening in the future. Here's hoping it doesn't happen though.

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  • [quote]They are creating more play time through having players repeating the same processes for a chance at getting specific items. And while it's addicting to get that one item and getting a dopamine rush, I wouldn't want to play every game that way.[/quote] I think this is what gets most people. I don't know what players expected but when I first heard about Destiny I knew it that was going to be Diablo in space. In loot intensive games like Diablo and Borderlands, the loot [b]IS[/b] the game. You can call Destiny an MMO, or a "shared world shooter" but at heart it's just a dungeon-crawler with loot at the end. If you are not playing for that aspect then you are really missing the point here. This is how it worked in Diablo 3 also, new loot was too good to pass up and some vanilla legendaries would stay at level 60 instead of going up to 70. I don't recall anyone on the Diablo forums complaining about their gear not carrying over. I believe this is what's going on here, Bungie created one game while the players are playing a completely different one. I have asked myself this question before "If Bungie got rid of all gun varieties and just gave us a couple guns like in Halo, would people still enjoy it?" Probably not.

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  • I haven't played Diablo, but I have played Borderlands. As for Borderlands, there is focus on loot, but there is also a huge focus on character building and skill trees. Even the badsss points system allows you to transfer some progress you've made on one character to the next. Getting to max level and max skills trees takes a lot of dedication while loot is something that comes and goes. Let's say for example that character building getting to max level and max skills takes up 70% of your time and dedication. This means 30% is for loot and collecting gear you want to keep. Destiny doesn't focus on character as much as it does loot. I would say 10% would be focused on your character and 90% would be obtaining loot. Even in TTK, they're giving people that have low level characters a level 25 boost, which proves they want people to get their characters playing the end game ad fast as possible. This means they're focusing more on loot. So if Borderlands has a 30% focus on loot and Destiny has a 90% focus on loot, what does it mean when they invalidate loot to make room for more stuff? This means Borderlands invalidates 30% of players time in game, while Destiny would invalidate 90%, since all we can really bring forward is our characters. This is how I see it. If Destiny would only focus on characters more, I think it wouldn't be such a hard hit for players. While shared world shooters should focus on loot, I think that it shouldn't be such a priority that it becomes a let down when more content is released. This is the balance that Bungie should strive for, but they clearly aren't because they are basically giving away end-game characters for free and reworking more on end-game loot.

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  • Haha you have made an excellent point. Everyone is so -blam!-ing dumb in these forums that I never expected someone to post something that would make me change the way I thought about the way Bungie is handling Destiny. The thing that Diablo and Borderlands have in common is that they have great synergies in their skill trees. Synergies hold up on their own unless you are playing endgame content, then you would need to look for specific gear that complemented your build. Destiny has half-assed builds without exotics. While I've never had a problem with legendaries not moving on, exotics are the only way to make builds work and thus allowing players so safely make it through endgame. I blame this on Bungie/Activision for trying to make an extremely casual game. Casuals can't be bothered to spend time figuring out builds or look for build-specific gear (according to Activisions researchers and shareholders no doubt.) There is no way to find an even ground between casual gameplay and core gameplay without Bungie taking a huge risk and taking Destiny back to the drawing board, which would be a big no-no especially if they are trying hard to make people still play this game in between dev cycles. So I guess while skills in Destiny are lackluster then we are going to need to turn to gear to build our characters. One of the reasons why I don't really complain about Destiny is because it's still a fun game to me even with all its flaws. I realized a while ago that Bungie is not going to try and fix the game completely and will just keep pushing DLC after DLC, it's no completely their fault since Activision is behind all of this.

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  • Yeah in dlc

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  • This game is going to be DLC intensive for the next 9 years. If you can't deal with that then you need to jump ship and don't expect free shit.

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  • I jumped ship long ago.cant wait for mgs5.why you getting so angry bro.you realise that they should be paying you for bending over,not the other way

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  • Edited by SpankyMcSpanky: 8/21/2015 10:09:54 PM
    I'm not angry. You're the one being hostile here and for some reason. I take it you're coming back here weekly to see if it's worth coming back so you haven't completely moved on.

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  • Came to see what the taken king has in store and if it could bring me back,but it's the same old thing just bigger price tag.i can't see how they justify the price tag considering all they are doing is fixing the biggest flaws of the game.they are leaving all old content behind meaning there ain't no reason to run anything from pre ttk,so you get one new area one new raid couple pvp maps to painfully grind until they want more money off you.there is some real games coming out soon that don't make it feel like a job to play,so that's where my time will go.if you enjoy this sort of loot addicting free to play genre stuff then good for u,but it ain't for me no more

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  • Good, get out of here.

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  • Not yet

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