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Edited by Dark Wedge: 8/25/2015 10:11:28 AM
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There will always be another Gjallarhorn, and another Thorn. This is the cycle of weapon development. And what Bungie terms as balanced will always come under scrutiny when it hits the community. Again, that's just the natural development lifecycle within a video game. But we the players don't help matters. All those elitists out there going "you cant do X raid unless you have Y weapon". Why the -blam!- not? Do you think the first people to tackle the raid had Y weapon, and level 34? No they bloody didn't. What you want is an easy ride without a challenge, so you ask for everyone to have Gjallarhorn or IceBreaker because you cant be bothered to undergo the challenge that is the white knuckle raid as it was designed. I've still yet to do any end game content, Skolas, Atheon, Crota. Why? Because I cant be arsed battling against the majority of elitists out there who wont let me run with them because my Gjallarhorn isn't upgraded. Honestly, if it was I'm the type of person that wouldn't bloody use it anyway just to argue a point. Exotic weapons should always be awesome, beautiful and powerful. Whats the point of them being exotic if they aren't? What needs to change here is not the way in which Bungie develop a gun, or the way in which they nerf them, its the way in which the community adopt a stupid attitude because people don't have that gun. I'm happy for a weapon, or a number of weapons to be classed the best weapons out there, weapon balance or not. I just wish the community would stop being so elitist about weapons, because that is what ruins the game, not what Bungie do. Out with the old, in with the new. Bring on new weapons, I'll happily leave everything I've worked hard for over the last 12 months in the vault. Where's the challenge otherwise.
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  • What you explain has nothing to do with elitists as you explain. It is all about the style of game and the race to get the weapons and gear before the next guy. Early on there were parts of the game that took some time to complete, especially with people who didn't have the proper gear or weapons to complete the activity. As things were added to the game these activities needed to be done faster in order for some to actually get through it all in a week. To do that certain strategies were formulated to expedite these activities, with the right gear that is. I was lucky enough to have two different crews that I ran with that always had enough people in one crew or the other to run these activities in that fashion.

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  • Edited by eldiablo: 8/25/2015 1:28:52 PM
    Worked hard for? Can you list a single item you "worked hard" for? I cant see any raid weapons, ib weapons, crucible weapons, super rare drops, trails gear on your account. Of course you dont care about losing any gear YOU DONT HAVE ANY

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    I have everything but super good advice and i agree with leaving our old shit behind. Thats how rpgs work when expansions are introduced. I dont want to use the same guns forever. That is stupid and boring.

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  • So we're talking about people that need to be forced to do what they want to do anyway....? Ohhh k, those people.

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  • For what it's worth, DestinyLfg is pretty decent to use to find a raid team. While yes, there are some posts on there saying "experts only, with max GHorn" there are also plenty out there that don't. And some that even state they're willing to help some newbies through it their first time. So it's worth trying. But since the DestinyLfg only shows the last 5 minutes' worth of postings you might sometimes get unlucky and see 5 minutes of "Max GHorn Only" up there. But let it cycle through.

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  • You can have green weapons run with whatever you want we have fun no shortcuts just a great raid experience. Check out my stream Maximsinner on twitch

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  • 8pm eastern we run 10 to 16 raids a week helping people get there triumph

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  • 8pm eastern we run 10 to 16 raids a week helping people get there triumph

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  • Maximsinner hit me up PSN I will be happy to raid with you. We start tonight at 8

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  • You sound like an idiot. You have ghorn, but didn't upgrade it? Now you're salty you didn't play endgame activities because you didn't upgrade it? So many people never had it, and that sucks for them, but you had it and chose to bitch anyway. You're just an idiot.

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  • My dear friend, you appear to be incapable of reading. I didn't do end game because I didn't upgrade Gjallarhorn, but because people like you insist I must have a fully upgraded one. I'm salty about people like you. It only sucks for people who don't have it because people like you wont let them do anything because they either don't have it or don't have a fully upgraded version. Honestly, I'd be happy to do raids with people who don't have any exotics at all. All hail the challenge. Please, read my point thoroughly before replying again, lest you make [i]yourself[/i] look like an idiot.

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  • Edited by Kollossol: 8/25/2015 11:22:49 AM
    Clever that you tried to turn me into one of those folks, however I could care less if you or anyone else has one or not. I've carried countless guardians through raids with my team, whether they have gally or not. We carried a random guardian with all blue weapons from the tower through crota so he could get his first legendary weapons. But you did state above that you weren't allowed to run with a team because your gally wasn't fully upgraded. That's no one's fault but yours. Fully upgrading any exotic takes no time at all, and it's your own fault if you haven't upgraded it.

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  • But it's not his fault it's yours!!!! -blam!- that guy dumbass logic.

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  • Right? Lol

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