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8/25/2015 1:45:33 PM
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I've always personally avoided OP weapons. The only one i've used consistently is the last word, and that was only because it was the one gun i wanted more than any other. I've used pulse rifles since the beta. Even during the reign of the auto rifle, i dropped big numbers using a pulse. I avoid the op weapons because i don't wanna get spoiled on them. I don't ever wanna feel like "oh man if they ever nerf this weapon, what am I gonna do?!". Its that reason, why i never mained my thorn and why i even stopped using the last word. If i know i can steam roll with a weapon, then i don't break it out unless i have too. I know that if i use the red death, i'll line the floors with bodies, so i keep it as a last resort. Same thing with the last word, same thing with the hawkmoon. Thorn is only for when facing a team of frauds using thorn. Its interesting to watch people spoil themselves by using obviously OP weapons in pvp, only to have a meltdown when the obvious nerf occurs. Then these frauds actually say shit like "well congrats, you noobs cried so much that bungie is nerfing this perfectly balanced weapon." I remember when auto rifles and fusion rifles "took more skill". They took so much skill to get kills with that EVERYBODY used them in pvp. People actually tried to pass off the thorn as if it were some "high skill" weapon.
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  • Yup I try to avoid OP stuff because I'll get too used to them, and when the inevitable Nerf happens I'm completely screwed because I relied on a crutch instead of learning to run. Plus I see OP gear as cheap in competitive matches: I don't really feel any enjoyment for winning a match for using an easy button.

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  • Amen

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  • you use 1 OP weapon. That's enough to get spoiled on it. BTW last word does not require any skill to use it. Hint: hipfire ;)

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  • salt or halt?

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  • nah, scrub. I'm just stating a fact. TLW is op at close range, better than Thorn. Btw get gut before making comments like that.

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  • Ok, don't call me a scrub. I was just asking if you were salty or not. .-.

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  • I was just stating a fact.

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  • BTW I'm against all the nerfs. If you want an op weapon go and get it and use it. People who are not good will always cry about op weapons. Give it 2 more months and they will cry about auto rifles again.

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  • relying on op weapons, but people who point out the inbalance are "not good". Sounds about right for your type.

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  • I don't rely on op weapons. use different weapons depends on a map. I always have different loadouts. What weapons do you use?

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  • allfate,three little words, and strange suspect, most of the time.

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  • And you use either matador or party crasher with the same op perks, shot package and luck in the chamber. Which works great for you in a short distance. You use your (BTW better than red death) 3 little words for a long range and pvp op truth with aggressive tracking for your heavy. Come on man don't be a hypocrite ;)

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  • I don't even remember what perks my shot guns have. Oh shit, now we're trying to make out like my pulse rifles are op? Yeah, the three little words is so OP that practically NOBODY uses it. and "omg you use truth, nvm everybody else using jellyhorn and any other ridiculous rocket launcher! hypocrite!!". Whatever makes you feel better man, go with it.

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  • Like I said I like to mix it up depending on your loadout. Would go with my hopscotch and ldr against you.

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  • You can't be serious. In a rng based game you just can't go get a gun. It's about balance that bungie has yet to get right. The suros could outgun any auto rifle, pulse rifle, scout rifle, and hand cannon in the game. The vex could outgun any auto rifle, pulse rifle, scout rifle, and hand cannon. The thorn and last word can outgun any auto rifle, pulse rifle, scout rifle, hand cannon, and heavy mg. If you think that people's skill level is why they complain, I think you're lost.

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  • So what's stopping you to go and buy your last word from Xur? He only sold it 100 of times. And thorn? i bet you could've gotten Thorn bounty at least 10 times before. And there is always a counter weapon against any weapon in this game imo.

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  • I've had my last word and and thorn since vanilla but from what I can remember I think xur only sold the last word 4 times? I'm not sure but he hasn't sold it a lot. Also yea the thorn and last word counter each other but my point was that nothing else can counter those two guns..

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  • Try out out hopscotch or hawkmoon.

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  • I'm on Xbox so no hawkmoon and no hopscotch but I do have a messenger. Don't get me wrong it's great but a thorn at range can do just as much damage and the last word in cqc is superior. That's the problem though, you can do this with every weapon and compare it to thorn and tlw and see they outclass everything

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  • Did not know you guys don't have hopscotch on Xbox. But I see your point. Hopefully we'll get better weapons balance with a new dlc coming out.

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  • Said I didn't, the Xbox was only referring to hawkmoon. But that's what I'm hoping for too

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  • Dragon strikes. I got mine after 6 tries

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  • I know how to get I just gave up that's one of the only things I have yet to get from a dragon strike

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  • Red death and mida.

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  • The only nerf I'm looking for is the final round.

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