No. People are saying these exotics suck. And you can't blame them. Vanilla exotics have outclassed every exotic released since. I'm still using armamentarium, lucky Raspberry, voidfang vestment/heart of praxic fire. Why? Because nothing else has added up to being worth an exotic slot.
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I'm not blaming them for saying a few of these suck, but jumping to the conclusion that all year 2 exotics will suck based off of these two (the shotgun looks useful IMO) is just typical of this communities negativity.