I have Thorn, TLW and Hawkmoon and my PvP skills did not get better. Those PvP badasses were still PvP badasses regardless. I am not sure why people think that good weapons in the hands of crappy players is the issue. Ever thought that Girl/Guy using Thorn just got really comfortable and good with it. Nope my ego won't stand for it it must be the weapons. The amount of things OP in Destiny is staggering I am surprised anything gets buffed in 2.0.