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Edited by Divinity Me:
8/29/2015 4:04:34 PM
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There is only one one problem with this... You are going about this statistically and not factually like you should be doing... Sure hunters are on the top but it's only because they are overplayed (by 0.6%) and very easy to use (not to mention fun). Although, the Titan is by far the most OP class. Yes, titans and warlocks are a little harder to use but have the potential to be much better than hunters ever could be. A titan fist of havoc can counter literally every super. The hunters are flimsy and weak when they use their supers( a blade-dancer can be countered with a high rate of fire shotgun, etc while fist of havoc is superior in a 1v1 scenario). But this is all bla bla and opinion. The true fact is that most of these statistics can be explained (sunsingers have the most grenade and melee because of their Super (Duuuuh) and fist of havoc is mostly used to kill one person at a time while other supers usually kill multiple at once.) I know I can never convince you people that Titan is the most overpowered class and and hunters need a buff(slight in pvp and huge buff in pve) but I will always know this in my heart. P.S- Sorry about any grammar mistakes, I had to write this in a rush, I love you all (even the Titans and the blink shotgunning hunters..., ok maybe not them :P)
P.P.S- Thank you M'aiq for modifying your post. :) Just want to say hunters only have two good grenades(tripmine and arcbolt) whereas Titans have 4(Lightning, flashbang, magnetic, suppressor). To specify, a flashbang does 140dmg in a 7m radius and blinds whereas the hunter incendiary grenade does the same amount( only if you include the DoT) but does not blind. Swarm grenade is a grenade that splits its damage (worthless for a grenade), flux grenade is an under-powered fusion/magnetic grenade and skip.... well... under-powered swarm grenade. Arcbolt is finisher grenade which is awesome for it's chaining capabilities but deals 80 dmg (less than half of a guardian's health). Tripmine is good, I could whine about it but, nah.
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Edited by Divinity Me: 8/27/2015 8:46:53 PMWell I don't know what your definition of OP is... For me, OP includes but is not limited too a huge slam into the earth that will kill anything in its radius cannot be blocked cannot be avoided and cannot be countered, you can't even escape. Sure bladedancer and Golden gun get more kills but you can stop them fairly easily. A titan Fist of SANIK( so fast omg....) cannot even be dodged (ok, you can, but it's really hard). THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO MISS LOL. P.S.- It's not my fault people are slamming into only one person(I see it a lot) and not bigger groups. P.P.S- I'm not whining though cuz nightstalker will be the bane of all Titans(possibly even Strikers).
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Some of us save Fist of Havoc specifically to shut down other supers... It is called good strategy because you are not only denying the opposing team easy kills but also preventing the generation of orbs, especially in the case of Gunslingers and Sunsingers.
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You shouldn't waste your super on just one gunslinger, they have the weakest super.
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Seriously... The super that can kill from any range, shoots through overshields, can generate the maximum number of orbs and has the potential to nuke an entire 6 person fireteam is the weakest super... Where's the satire tag?
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Umm so does Foh but it has a ridiculous overshield and range and golden gun doesn't. Gg gets killed easily along with bladedancer. Have TLW Thorn or a shotgun? That super is dead. Or if you hear it you hide or run away.
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Edited by Malicious203FLK: 8/28/2015 4:49:37 PMIf you're getting shotgunned with Golden Gun active, you're doing it wrong. Face to face, Thorn and TLW don't stand a chance either. The only weapon I worry about is snipers. Fist of Havoc has neither the range or multi kill potential that GG does. Oh and you can see FoH coming if you pay attention...
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You can't see fist of havoc coming because there's the animation then death and it happens in about 2 seconds. And you said if you're shotgunning a golden gun you're doing it wrong, ALL THE MAPS except twighlight gap are close quarters.
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Pantheon, Shores of Time, Widow's Court, & Rusted Lands are all ranged maps. Blind Watch, Asylum, The Anomaly, Cauldron, Black Shield & Burning Shrine all have ranged tactics. The only true CQC map is Thieves Den.
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I don't know about you but when I play ranged maps people seem to stick to the close quarters parts of it and the close ranged maps are heavily weighted in the playlist such as cauldron.
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I spend most of my time sniping so I look for the lanes where people have to pass through to get to the close quarter areas. TLW is my shotgun of choice.
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I do to but it takes too long for someone that you can snipe but they usually thorn me down
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Foh isn't supposed to be ranged and gg can't shoot as far as you think. And it's easy to shotgun or use TLW or Thorn to them, but if you jump high up you can't avoid fist of havoc. You should probably read the description of your subclass it says that fist of havoc is close quarters.
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I've used Golden Gun on "A" spawn and killed the other team on "C" heavy ammo on Twilight Gap. That's about as far a shot as there is outside of the Combined Arms maps. GG has almost unlimited range and crazy aim assist if you build your subclass for it, although with 2 Hunters you should know that... FoH is supposed to be hard to avoid at close range, otherwise it would be useless. If you see a Titan max jump in front of you, you have time to shoot them out of the air or jump away/at them. If you see them charging at you or into a room, you have limited time to do something about it. Otherwise, you're -blam!-ed.
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I've used gg there and it doesn't 1 hit them.
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It absolutely does. I've gotten multi kills from that spot.
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I've stayed at the sniper spot used gg and only gotten hitmarkers but they may have fixed that because that may have been when gg was glitched. (I'm not sure the dates when I tried to do this but have you uses the nighthawk on crota? It's awesome.)
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You need to be using Over The Horizon to kill at that range and I've done it at various times in the last month or so, which is how I know it works. I've never used the Nighthawk on Crota, mostly all of my old raid buddies quit playing, but I do use it most frequently for PvE stuff. Love it in Solar burn Nightfall strikes with Combustion on.
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[quote]Some of us save Fist of Havoc specifically to shut down other supers... It is called good strategy because you are not only denying the opposing team easy kills but also preventing the generation of orbs, especially in the case of Gunslingers and Sunsingers.[/quote] This is perfectly fine and doesn't make FoH over powered in the least. In fact, because you don't get many kills with that strategy, it would be considered perfectly balanced.
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Edited by echoblammo: 8/27/2015 7:48:39 PMNot the point. The point is that a bunch of Jackass Cod gamers come over with Hunter and demand they should be buffed all the time and Us titans and Warlocks Nerfed all the time just so they can be the Overlord Quickscope noob yourmom 360ers of Destiny. And Not true, from a distance, FoH is Useless against Nova Bomb and Gunslinger. Arc Blade and Sunsinger and Defender yes. And sorry to burst your Titan bubble but Statistics are almost always gathered on facts, and facts are almost always based off of statistics, so he is arguing about this both statistically and factually.
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Fun Fact: A titan using unstoppable won't get one shot by Golden Gun when using their special. (Not saying this is OP, but it is pretty interesting.)
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It's 2 shot by golden gun without unstoppable.
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BS, happened to me lots of times
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That's a lie. You cannot get 1 shot by golden gun in foh, without unstoppable you get 2 shot meaning the hunter will most likely die and you will survive, if you're high in the air using foh you may trade. Golden gun is a weak super to counter other supers.
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How dumb must be to have just said that Foh if you read it's description will tell you IT'S CLOSE QUARTERS
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Edited by echoblammo: 8/27/2015 8:05:20 PMDestiny gamer: You have a good point there, lets leave it at that, this is just gonna spiral into Insanity CoD Gamer: What the -blam!- IS WRONG WITH YOU DUMBASS -blam!- SHITHEAD WEEDSMOKING PEDO BABYASS HARDSCOPING NOOB DICKSUCKER? THE HUNTER IS WAY OP ANYWAY AND THATS ALL I DO TO PWN THE RETARD SHITHEAD -blam!-TARD TITANS ANYWAY SO I DON"T EVEN KNOW HY IM -blam!-ING ARGUING WITH YOU SHITHEAD NWBFACE MOMPLEASER LETS KEEP ARGUING AND ILL MAKE EVEN MORE EPIC MLG REMARKS AND POSTS AND WIN EVENTUALLY CAUSE YOU REALIZE IVE BEEN RIGHT ALL ALONG ASSFACE MCDICKSUCKER YOur like the first person I've ever seen who doesn't do the bottom remark :)
