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8/27/2015 6:14:27 PM
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You do know that when people refer to Golden Gun and Bladedancer being underpowered, that they're referring to [b]PVE[/b], not pvp. And they are underpowered in pve, bladedancer's super is worthless beyond patrol and going invis for a few seconds, golden gun without celestial nighthawk is completely useless and needing a helmet for something to be somewhat good is dumb, I can't use the Bones of Eao if I want a decent golden gun
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Edited by Tucker: 8/27/2015 11:09:13 PMBladedancers are UP in PvE. Gunslingers are not. With Achlyophage and Combustion perk on I decimate adds. Starting in VoG with my raid team, I've got a reputation of how many orbs of light I can generate. Gunslingers could use some tweaking and a slight buff in PvE, but they're 85-90% just fine. BTW, I've mained Gunslinger since launch.
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But you are still using your exotic helmet to power up your super, so I think his point still stands. Not to mention that the Templar's Well encounters in VoG present you with hordes of tightly clustered, comparatively weak enemies in a way that you don't see in many other endgame PvE encounters. Fist of Havoc and Nova Bomb can be unimpressive in endgame PvE in their own rights, however, so it does balance out a bit. The endgame just seems to favor defensive supers, and the Hunter doesn't have one. Arc Blade is just bad, though. Actually attacking with it is suicidal.
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Even without Achlyophage my killing prowess with GG is impressive. All throughout hard mode VoG I had to use Crest of Alpha Lupi to be level 30. Even with only 3 shots my fireteam were still impressed with how many orbs of light I generated. Personally, I think Symbiote is the best Gunslinger exotic armor anyways. I don't feel like I am sacrificing much to wear it. And yes, Arc Blade is the fail. Just the lack of orb generation turns me off to it. And it could really use a PvE shield buff.
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I heard once that early on Arc Blade had better damage resistance, but that they reduced it because of the difficulty countering it in PvP. On the topic of rebalancing Arc Blade, tell me what you think of this. Reduce the damage resistance slightly, increase the duration, and give Bladedancers the Vanish talent for free bound to the ADS trigger. This means that Bladedancers can use the stealth that defines the class in PvE to approach or escape enemies without sacrificing the offensive skills they need, while in Crucible they'd have to plan their attacks more carefully, since observant players can notice them even when in stealth. The bubble where the Vanish talent resides currently could then have a new talent designed specifically to compensate for the super's PvE shortcomings. I'd like to see either a shuriken barrage that causes the target(s) to take more damage, similar to the Sunbreaker melee talent, or a "Falcon Punch" style attack that can inflict significant damage on a major target.
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Edited by Ocean Man: 8/27/2015 8:21:27 PMI'm going to have to disagree with you based on personal experience. My friend who is a Hunter most of the time said while we were in the Crucible "Hunters supers are so weak, why don't we get an over shield when we use it?" He exclaims. "Really?" I question, standing there as a Defender Titan when all that it takes to bring me down is a high impact shotgun INSIDE my bubble.
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iim talking about pve
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I understand that, read my post again. I was saying my friend believes Hunters supers are in need of a buff, making your statement "They mean in PvE" false.
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Found one in here actually. Despite the stats. [quote][b]InhibitedEmu760:[/b] Bladedancer is weakest super in PvP.[/quote]
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Your lack of forum experience is obvious. No, sadly the whine is about Hunters being underpowered in [b]PvP[/b].
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Did you receive my PM?
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Um, if I may say so myself, all the post I have seen about hunters whining about there subclass being underpowered have been referred to the pvp side of things.
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GG can cause more damage in a second than anything that exists in destiny. With Celestial Nighthawk equipped that is.
