So I had been considering doing something like this before.
I've continued pushing this point and no matter what the trolls say, I'm not stopping and neither should anyone else who feels the same way.
[b]ALL YEAR 1 LEGENDARY AND EXOTIC WEAPONS AND ARMOR SHOULD CONTINUE TO ASCEND.[/b]
Kackis on Year 1 Legendaries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8WX1fSimWM
Kackis on Year 1 Exotics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4b5Jj6xGxQ
There is just simply NO REASON for them not to continue onward going forward. It shouldn't be a decision that is FORCED on anyone. It shouldn't be all about having the new stuff compete with the old but rather designing new innovative weapons that will compliment and go along with what is already available. There is NOTHING WRONG with having MORE OPTIONS AND VARIETY. It adds that level of diversity which the game has been desperately needing since the start.
[b]LOOK.[/b] If you are going to design the game around a Loot Driven Experience where the primary reason for people to play the game is to go around grinding for weapons and armor (Vendors/Raids/Iron Banner/POE/etc.) and then a year later decide AGAINST allowing them to continue bringing those things into the newer content? Then you effectively RUIN that first year's worth of experience and make everyone feel as though their time and hard work has been [b]UTTERLY POINTLESS.[/b]
Did people have fun playing with others and make friends? Yes. However, its important to remember that [b]YOU CAN GET THAT EXPERIENCE IN ANY ONLINE GAME[/b]. It is by no means exclusive to Destiny in the least and the ONLY reason the vast majority of folks did it at all in this game was for the common goal of getting desired loot.
Am I wrong? If every player in the game had instant access to every Legendary and Exotic in the game, how many do you think would have honestly spent as much time as they did in the game?
And like I have explained so many times before, telling us that Year 1 Weapons/Armor will still have a place in Year 1 Content means NOTHING. How many people do you really think did Vault of Glass over and over again JUST to get a Fatebringer for the sole purpose of spending the next 10 years using it to keep redoing VOG? No, of course not. They got it like the rest of their weapons so that they could bring everything WITH THEM on their 10 year adventure. That's why people WANTED increased Vault Space because many are collectors or specialists who enjoy having an expansive arsenal at their disposal.
And our Year 1 accomplishments aren't found in some emblem or a black shader, but in the weapons and armor that we quested for.
As the saying goes; "Become Legend."
Our Legend is directly tied to our gear and that includes Year 1, Year 2, 3, 4 and all the way up for as long as Destiny lives. Take that away and what are we?
If I wanted a game where I consistently reset my progress all the time, I'd just play Call of Duty with their lame ass Prestige nonsense. Don't we want MORE from Destiny than some cheap COD knockoff?
With all that said, I encourage anyone who feels the same or who has posts talking about the same to add #infusionforall to their threads. I've already marked my relevant posts with the new tag. I chose this simply because lets face it, the new Infusion System that Bungie revealed in their first Twitch stream totally just SCREAMS Year 1 Gear Ascension. I honestly believe that allowing players the option to use ANY Legendary to Infuse with another Legendary to boost its damage/defense rating (Regardless of them being from Year 1 or Year 2), is the PERFECT answer to resolve this problem.
Same goes for the Exotics too, because even though we've seen what was written in Edge? You're going to be making NEW "Year 2 Versions" of those Year 1 Exotics. They won't be the exact same, meaning its going to be either hit or miss with folks. By all means, I totally advocate the concept making Year 2 Versions of all current Exotics, but players should still be given the option to keep upgrading the original versions as well.
That is why I say [b]#INFUSION FOR ALL[/b]...
This is an important issue that deserves attention until something is done about it. [i]Truth[/i].
God Bless.
[b]EDIT: Add the #infusionforall tag to your post and add it to the listing![/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/1/0/infusionforall
[b]EDIT #2: Guys, "Power Creep" honestly isn't that big of a problem. Don't be so quick to jump to this conclusion, its not as if Bungie themselves have given this as an answer. At this point its just others in the community speculating and in all seriousness its an easy fix. [/b]
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Just let the year 1 stuff die already. It's old news.
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Really, they need to continue to explore other areas like better sociability and story and give up on the silly carrot-dangling.
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Edited by Krollbar: 10/4/2015 3:35:47 PM[quote]Become Legend[/quote] Should be changed to: [i]Become M'Kay[/i]
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Bump from the past
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I don't feel like all year one weapons should ascend to year two. If they made different difficulty levels for Vault of Glass, and Crota, and the gear made worth while. That's all I feel is needed, I for one would not mind 're-running everything to gain what I had back
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Why not.
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Bumped for relevancy. Shared for convenience. http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac314/lllwarchildlll/-DESTINY%20general%20Pics-/9DDE180C-9A01-46E3-97D4-7D287570113D.jpg
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I seriously can't bump this enough.
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The real question all of us (who are upset) should ask is, "why do I even care? Why do I feel compelled to try to change the system?". I look at it like this: there are MANY other AAA games coming out and I will play at least half of them upon release. There are more games coming early next year that look to be great as well. I have decided to move on because Bungie/Activision simply don't care! I hate to say it because the game was fun, but they don't respect the gamer, only our money (or how much they can get out of us). Just move on and play other games and maybe Bungie will change their tune. If they do change their mind, then we can pick up the year 3 edition with all the content at a cheaper rate and laugh at those who didn't learn their lesson. It's that simple. I love your post and your ideas, but it won't matter. FALLOUT 4 on November 10 is just the start!
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Bump! I want to see again, please return my Vision to me
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At this point, to allow Y1 weapons to ascend would only piss off people who bought TTK and have dismantled all or most of their Y1 gear... Its safe to say #infusionforall won't happen ...
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I'm glad people are getting behind this. I remember I mentioned how this expansion gave you less total gear because instead of having a base game plus three expansions worth of gear you only have one expansions worth. People essentially said "shut up and enjoy the shiny". You made a good point when you talked about Cod's prestige system. All taken king is a forced prestige system. Yes we have new gear but I feel like they reversed all the long term things they have done to make the game more player friendly.
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Edited by SpaceJam (Adept): 10/3/2015 5:32:53 PMBump, Bungie listen for once
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I disagree. What is even the point of a level cap if people will just use the same shit? My favorite thing to do in this game is find better loot. If you already have the best loot why do you play? I don't play PvP in this game and even if I did you can still use Y1 items.
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YEA! Let's make it so that everyone just uses Vision of Confluence or Fate Bringer, Felwinters Lie, and Gjallarhorn again! This is a dumb concept. Learn how to move on. Year 2 weapons function better and look cooler.
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bump bump bump
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Just imagine how much variety this game could have if they just added the updated vender and faction stuff to go with the existing weapons and gear instead of replacing all the existing weapons and gear with each dlc/expansion. I'm much less motivated to grind for stuff this time around
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Bump, they should really add a bump button next to the like star....... Yes I am that lazy =)>
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I just want to pop back into this thread since favorites are active again and say that there is literally no reason why any yr1 legendary couldn't be turned in along with an Etheric light for a "reworked" yr2 version, meaning any perks that have been tweaked or no longer exist can just be randomized like all the new items.
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Edited by ands2: 9/18/2015 12:46:50 AMBump, no reason to decrease options.
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[quote]Guys, "Power Creep" honestly isn't that big of a problem. Don't be so quick to jump to this conclusion, its not as if Bungie themselves have given this as an answer. At this point its just others in the community speculating and in all seriousness its an easy fix.[/quote] Not to mention power creep is caused by increasing level cap, or in this case, light level, and making content trivial and pointless, because that new gear is a direct upgrade from the gear you're currently wearing. some people just don't understand the term power creep on these forums, and throw it out loosely, when in actuality, their argument only works against them. But you know, how much should I expect out of a fan base composed of middle schoolers trying to seem smarter than they actually are. Just my two cents.