So I had been considering doing something like this before.
I've continued pushing this point and no matter what the trolls say, I'm not stopping and neither should anyone else who feels the same way.
[b]ALL YEAR 1 LEGENDARY AND EXOTIC WEAPONS AND ARMOR SHOULD CONTINUE TO ASCEND.[/b]
Kackis on Year 1 Legendaries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8WX1fSimWM
Kackis on Year 1 Exotics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4b5Jj6xGxQ
There is just simply NO REASON for them not to continue onward going forward. It shouldn't be a decision that is FORCED on anyone. It shouldn't be all about having the new stuff compete with the old but rather designing new innovative weapons that will compliment and go along with what is already available. There is NOTHING WRONG with having MORE OPTIONS AND VARIETY. It adds that level of diversity which the game has been desperately needing since the start.
[b]LOOK.[/b] If you are going to design the game around a Loot Driven Experience where the primary reason for people to play the game is to go around grinding for weapons and armor (Vendors/Raids/Iron Banner/POE/etc.) and then a year later decide AGAINST allowing them to continue bringing those things into the newer content? Then you effectively RUIN that first year's worth of experience and make everyone feel as though their time and hard work has been [b]UTTERLY POINTLESS.[/b]
Did people have fun playing with others and make friends? Yes. However, its important to remember that [b]YOU CAN GET THAT EXPERIENCE IN ANY ONLINE GAME[/b]. It is by no means exclusive to Destiny in the least and the ONLY reason the vast majority of folks did it at all in this game was for the common goal of getting desired loot.
Am I wrong? If every player in the game had instant access to every Legendary and Exotic in the game, how many do you think would have honestly spent as much time as they did in the game?
And like I have explained so many times before, telling us that Year 1 Weapons/Armor will still have a place in Year 1 Content means NOTHING. How many people do you really think did Vault of Glass over and over again JUST to get a Fatebringer for the sole purpose of spending the next 10 years using it to keep redoing VOG? No, of course not. They got it like the rest of their weapons so that they could bring everything WITH THEM on their 10 year adventure. That's why people WANTED increased Vault Space because many are collectors or specialists who enjoy having an expansive arsenal at their disposal.
And our Year 1 accomplishments aren't found in some emblem or a black shader, but in the weapons and armor that we quested for.
As the saying goes; "Become Legend."
Our Legend is directly tied to our gear and that includes Year 1, Year 2, 3, 4 and all the way up for as long as Destiny lives. Take that away and what are we?
If I wanted a game where I consistently reset my progress all the time, I'd just play Call of Duty with their lame ass Prestige nonsense. Don't we want MORE from Destiny than some cheap COD knockoff?
With all that said, I encourage anyone who feels the same or who has posts talking about the same to add #infusionforall to their threads. I've already marked my relevant posts with the new tag. I chose this simply because lets face it, the new Infusion System that Bungie revealed in their first Twitch stream totally just SCREAMS Year 1 Gear Ascension. I honestly believe that allowing players the option to use ANY Legendary to Infuse with another Legendary to boost its damage/defense rating (Regardless of them being from Year 1 or Year 2), is the PERFECT answer to resolve this problem.
Same goes for the Exotics too, because even though we've seen what was written in Edge? You're going to be making NEW "Year 2 Versions" of those Year 1 Exotics. They won't be the exact same, meaning its going to be either hit or miss with folks. By all means, I totally advocate the concept making Year 2 Versions of all current Exotics, but players should still be given the option to keep upgrading the original versions as well.
That is why I say [b]#INFUSION FOR ALL[/b]...
This is an important issue that deserves attention until something is done about it. [i]Truth[/i].
God Bless.
[b]EDIT: Add the #infusionforall tag to your post and add it to the listing![/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/1/0/infusionforall
[b]EDIT #2: Guys, "Power Creep" honestly isn't that big of a problem. Don't be so quick to jump to this conclusion, its not as if Bungie themselves have given this as an answer. At this point its just others in the community speculating and in all seriousness its an easy fix. [/b]
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BUMP #infusionforall
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Level up 1 gun from each class for year 2.
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Edited by N7-BADA: 9/2/2015 2:23:51 PMCome on everybody instead of bumping put this in! #infusionforall #infusion
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My biggest problem is that people that are new won't have to go through any of TDB or HOW to get to the new content (starts at lv 25) and they can just skip up to a lever 34+ really quick compared to how long it used to take.
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Edited by I Speedwagon I: 9/2/2015 3:38:47 PM[b][i][u]#Infusion4all[/u][/i][/b]
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I feel that weapon reforge ruined it. No need to grind for a entirely new arsenal if our current weapons have perfect perks to fit our play. They could keep dlc II weapons away from ascension and allow the rest to be but we know how they like to comprise...
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I agree with you man....rebalance the guns if you need to....if the fatebringer cant be the best handcannon in the game; i dont mind...just make it viable and more importantly balanced And of course make the journey a chore to level up the old guns....yeah make it to where we need to work for it...not just beat this boss and boom....unless that boss is oryx...then i will be up for that....so you could play through and beat oryx and be able to upgrade one legendary at a time.......AGAIN rebalance the guns...we want to play with the new guns too, but if the old legendaries are way better than the new ones NO ONE WILL PLAY WITH THEM....so for the last time ....rebalance them And dont get me wrong, i understand how many weapons that is....bungie will need to go one by one and do that...that will take time, so be ready for a long wait for obvious reasons
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Bump. This is hugely important to me. Keep it at the top!
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My biggest question is lore. If you're trying to immerse me in your universe with a story about practically every event and piece of gear, why would you just make the history that you created disappear. Bungie is basically destroying the historical context that they've tried to create.
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I remembered yesterday that they'd removed the "Blades" random events from the game and it occurred to me that I paid for that content but never got to experience it. I bought the full package as House of Wolves was releasing but it seems now that I didn't actually receive the full game. Only a minor piece (as far as I know) but how much will new buyers miss out on next month? With this whole Year 2 debacle I'm not so much worried about the content for TTK, so far it looks like a great addition, I am however very worried about how much of the game we're all going to lose! - All of our year 1 guns, LOST. - All of our year 1 armour, LOST. - Blades, already gone. - Prowling wolves, gone? [spoiler]One pack left on Mars?[/spoiler] - Raids? Will there be some leveling to ensure the challenge remains or will they just be boring low level cakewalks? - Strikes and Y1 missions? Will they get higher difficulties or do we kiss them goodbye? In my view Destiny is an expanding universe, with each iteration the game should develop but it should do so through addition, not substitution or subtraction. We have ALL paid for the content and we MUST be allowed to keep ALL OF IT! ... and for that to happen it must also stay relevant so I'm supporting ascension for all. I've just been playing the Forza 6 demo, very impressed and looking forward to the full game now but could any of us imagine them releasing an "expansion" next year and saying "But you won't be able to upgrade any of your year 1 cars, you'll need to drive these new ones if you want to be competitive." or "Mazda 787, well it was a bit OP so we're going to take a wheel off"? Didn't think so.