So I had been considering doing something like this before.
I've continued pushing this point and no matter what the trolls say, I'm not stopping and neither should anyone else who feels the same way.
[b]ALL YEAR 1 LEGENDARY AND EXOTIC WEAPONS AND ARMOR SHOULD CONTINUE TO ASCEND.[/b]
Kackis on Year 1 Legendaries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8WX1fSimWM
Kackis on Year 1 Exotics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4b5Jj6xGxQ
There is just simply NO REASON for them not to continue onward going forward. It shouldn't be a decision that is FORCED on anyone. It shouldn't be all about having the new stuff compete with the old but rather designing new innovative weapons that will compliment and go along with what is already available. There is NOTHING WRONG with having MORE OPTIONS AND VARIETY. It adds that level of diversity which the game has been desperately needing since the start.
[b]LOOK.[/b] If you are going to design the game around a Loot Driven Experience where the primary reason for people to play the game is to go around grinding for weapons and armor (Vendors/Raids/Iron Banner/POE/etc.) and then a year later decide AGAINST allowing them to continue bringing those things into the newer content? Then you effectively RUIN that first year's worth of experience and make everyone feel as though their time and hard work has been [b]UTTERLY POINTLESS.[/b]
Did people have fun playing with others and make friends? Yes. However, its important to remember that [b]YOU CAN GET THAT EXPERIENCE IN ANY ONLINE GAME[/b]. It is by no means exclusive to Destiny in the least and the ONLY reason the vast majority of folks did it at all in this game was for the common goal of getting desired loot.
Am I wrong? If every player in the game had instant access to every Legendary and Exotic in the game, how many do you think would have honestly spent as much time as they did in the game?
And like I have explained so many times before, telling us that Year 1 Weapons/Armor will still have a place in Year 1 Content means NOTHING. How many people do you really think did Vault of Glass over and over again JUST to get a Fatebringer for the sole purpose of spending the next 10 years using it to keep redoing VOG? No, of course not. They got it like the rest of their weapons so that they could bring everything WITH THEM on their 10 year adventure. That's why people WANTED increased Vault Space because many are collectors or specialists who enjoy having an expansive arsenal at their disposal.
And our Year 1 accomplishments aren't found in some emblem or a black shader, but in the weapons and armor that we quested for.
As the saying goes; "Become Legend."
Our Legend is directly tied to our gear and that includes Year 1, Year 2, 3, 4 and all the way up for as long as Destiny lives. Take that away and what are we?
If I wanted a game where I consistently reset my progress all the time, I'd just play Call of Duty with their lame ass Prestige nonsense. Don't we want MORE from Destiny than some cheap COD knockoff?
With all that said, I encourage anyone who feels the same or who has posts talking about the same to add #infusionforall to their threads. I've already marked my relevant posts with the new tag. I chose this simply because lets face it, the new Infusion System that Bungie revealed in their first Twitch stream totally just SCREAMS Year 1 Gear Ascension. I honestly believe that allowing players the option to use ANY Legendary to Infuse with another Legendary to boost its damage/defense rating (Regardless of them being from Year 1 or Year 2), is the PERFECT answer to resolve this problem.
Same goes for the Exotics too, because even though we've seen what was written in Edge? You're going to be making NEW "Year 2 Versions" of those Year 1 Exotics. They won't be the exact same, meaning its going to be either hit or miss with folks. By all means, I totally advocate the concept making Year 2 Versions of all current Exotics, but players should still be given the option to keep upgrading the original versions as well.
That is why I say [b]#INFUSION FOR ALL[/b]...
This is an important issue that deserves attention until something is done about it. [i]Truth[/i].
God Bless.
[b]EDIT: Add the #infusionforall tag to your post and add it to the listing![/b] https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Topics/0/1/0/infusionforall
[b]EDIT #2: Guys, "Power Creep" honestly isn't that big of a problem. Don't be so quick to jump to this conclusion, its not as if Bungie themselves have given this as an answer. At this point its just others in the community speculating and in all seriousness its an easy fix. [/b]
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Well written and I agree completely, Mal. +1
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Bump. Good stuff.
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Bumpa
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Why would we use year 1 weapons when we have newer ones? Because f you give us your money. You want year 1 infusion? well, maybe, we considered doing that, at some time, we'll get back to that, maybe around year 5.
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Bump.
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I am on the fence about this, there are a few Trusty weapons i would like to keep going forward with, but plenty i do not mind leaving behind. The biggest issue in the end for me is the fact that Only raid weapons have elemental primary (and ToO) those highly coveted weapons are important to us. I want to bring my FateBringer and WoC forward because i like Handcannons and those have burns i need. Thats what gets me. So in the end let us hand pick a few to bring forward, the truly special ones to us. Make it a max of 3, make it a difficult decision for some, but make it 3 primary only. I get why they are doing it in the end upon further reflection. Too many broken perks in year one, they want to leave those felwinters, matador's and party crashers behind, along with other guns that were rerolled into unstoppable forces.
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B U M P ! ! ! alone the fact that we have to fight for something like this speaks itself for how much flaws bungievision's vision has! it's, again, an insult to everyone who spent soo much time for grinding for all this things, when this game wasn't anything else but grinding! idk, but how long i even can spend on thinking about it, makes absolutely no sense to not allow us to take over our stuff, as it's US playing their game, although they the ones that created it...also can't understand anyone who's okay with it, truly! in a game, where we get NO (!!!) changes, NOTHING new, more taken away than added, things made obsolete we paid for, NOTHING new, except a few guns, NO new planets, NO new enemies, TWO raids made worthless, ONLY one new added...how can this be ok??? can't understand this stupidity! it's not like it becomes a new game...STILL running the same old crap...cosmodrome, venus, etc, SAME bounties, SAME enemies (only some reskinned), SAME EVERYTHING! how's that NEW??? the ONLY thing new is taking our guns away by FORCE!!!! the more i think about it, the more it makes me mad! how can anyone accept this and is fine with it is beyond my understanding :/ so this is how it shall be? grinding the SAME ALL OVER like hell, to see year after year our hard earned, time-consuming stuff taken away by force??? HOW THE BLAM ARE PPL FINE WITH IT AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrr^^ to me, if this is how it will be, then i can't identify myself with this vision...my common sense would not allow it :/ still hope for a change on this madness, but to me clear...NO ascension,NO more money...then i decide to stay with what's already paid...TWO raids over ONE !!! my loved guns/items over the new ones i atm have no relation too....NO ascension doesn't make sense...new start? well, if this is the only solution bungie comes up with, well then, they need a buff first before everything else... sry again, hard to overcome the language barrier, but hope my point is still understandable...
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p.s. I N F I N I T Y B U M P !!!!!!!!!!!!! so happy to have you in forum malphisto...you give many like me a voice! thx for that!
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Bump. Bungie won't listen but BUMP all the same brother!! Oh and the news that leaked about the TTK raid being released at a later date than TTK? Another load of horse sh7t IMO.. They didn't release a raid in HOW to give them more time to release it for TTK.. So how long we need to wait BUMGIE?
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Bump, we should be able to use the guns and armor we want.
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Where's Batman ?
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Deej once said that he feels a 10-year marriage to the same gun would be pretty boring. My rebuttal: Yeah, because the 3+ years we spent with each weapon in each Halo game was so boring. Also, if that's how he views marriage to a digital gun, then how does he view marriage to one person in real life? :|
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Ill play Destiny TTK if they introduce infusion for year 1 legendaries.
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Bump. Well said.
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Bump.
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