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Edited by CybrWyteTygr:
9/3/2015 1:18:46 PM
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At least. Ship mac cannons can get to 50+
Plus constant bombardment.
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Asteroid avg size;100km diameter avg mass; couple 100,000 tons Avg speed 40,000 mph 100,000* 40,000= 40000000000 newtons of force (on average) How heavy is a mac round?
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He's not the best guy to argue for halo. But MAC rounds vary from the ship they sport. They range from 600 tons to 3000 tons. Check the halo wikia for an accurate devastating estimates on their power.
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A mac round by slower speed an less weight is STILL 10,000-1,000,000x LESS force than an asteroid even at 600-3000 tons each on mac rounds
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Thermodynamic expansion and sheer kinetic energy alone would obliterate the shields. And it fires every 2-3 seconds lol (Super MAC odp) But that's not what I'll base the destruction of your shitty little Death Star off of. It's the sentinels... 1000 sentinels far exceed the destructive capability of the Death Star. Keep in mind that there are trillions of them and when they Conjoin their Firepower and forunner shields amplify [b]exponentially[/b]. Death Star would be a molten slag heap. None of the point defense systems or the actual primary weapon would breach their extremely overpowered shields.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 9/8/2015 12:05:21 PMAlso keep in mind EACH SENTINEL is ONLY equipped with a heavy laser cannon (its not even on par with a TURBO laser from a capital ship in STAR WARS when fired in CONJUNCTION with others. And COVENANT vessels DONT have ray shielding (or to my knowledge ANY energy shields of ANY kind). I will run the actual numbers and account for thermal dynamics (though with a LASER or ENERGY based weapon the initial impact IS the strongest part of the reaction; lets not forget ENTROPY) ---> death star vs sentinel array An yea MAC rounds under SUSTAINED fire Might be on par with an asteroid impact but you would need to sustain fire FOR SOME TIME! (Keep in mind ANY asteroid impact is 500x MORE force/blast produced than A NUCLEAR WARHEAD of same YEILD!)
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You misread.. Sentinel fire conjoined increases exponentially. Under the surface of onyx thousands of them firing in different directions destroyed the entire planet. Which in includes crust mantle core etc. which is far thicker than you 1 km Death Star armor. All covenant vessels have a primitive form of forunner energy shielding.. And primitive compared to the actual shields of the forunners they are quite strong. Standard shielding on a CCS class battle cruiser is sufficient to stop 3-4 plasma torpedoes then the nanolomite armor they use could tank two plasma torpedoes.. Ok back to the actual fight.. I'd say that 5000 sentinels conjoined would reduce the Death Star into a slag heap. Their firepower and defense skyrocket exponentially.. I'd say their combined fire would be on par with a gamma ray burst.. Death Star is dead. Accept it..
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K thanx for the info on the covenant shields, will take into account. The death star's ray shielding though: Powered by a fusion reactor equal in energy output to a white dwarf star (roughly) the real question is can it get through that alone let alone 1-10km thick of super dense alloy (rocks and sand are less dense and less resistive than say a block of titanium of same size as an example) Ive got to do a SIZEABLE amount of research to run the calculations though and each number in each equation on average will consist if at least 10x place values, SO IT MAY BE A WHILE but I WILL POST IT on both this reply thread and in the MAIN TOPIC on this topic thread.
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It won't be accurate.. Planet composition will not be accurate. Geophysics says that with acceptable gravity turns planets into formidable stellar bodies ( if that's the right word). Earth for example would be nigh indestructible in the physical sense. Everything on the surface would die in a catastrophe. But in real life what can you think of that would effectively destroy earth? Excluding out of system things. Supernova. Gamma ray pulses, etc. the core is a spinning magnetic crystal of molten iron. A nuclear weapon wouldn't do anything to that.. But again I'm distracted.. Sentinels are sentinels.. And this isn't really a fight of how but of how many. Sentinels are the very literal word of exponential. Every one of their strengths increase exponentially.. It would be a matter of how much your Death Star could take. And this is one thing out of the halo universe.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 9/8/2015 12:37:09 PMI UNDERSTAND how exponential stuff works: A MAC round IS NOT as effective as a NUKE; an ASTEROID is 500x EXPONENTIALLY STRONGER than a NUKE of SAME YEILD. As far as planets go guess what: E=mc^2 As long as you have EQUAL force of ENERGY OR MASS to the resistive force of an ENTIRE PLANET: [b][i][u]there are then an INFINITE number of ways to destroy that planet so long as you use the energy that is required[/u][/i][/b] We can accurately MEASURE the earth's mass down to a phemta gram! (Idk spelling but its a few THOUSAND times smaller than a gram!) We can also just as accurately measure the density of that mass That being said while actual 100% composition STILL alludes us; we have ENOUGH of the equation to calculate the destructive force required.
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Edited by CybrWyteTygr: 9/3/2015 1:47:19 PMFrom the ship, a few hundred kilograms. Multiply that by another 10,000, because their shield would, again, deal with constant bombardment. 700x50=30,000. 100,000x30,000=3,000,000 newtons. 3,000,000x10,000 (because amount fired is 1,000, and recovery time wouldn't be enough), is 30,000,000 newton equivalent of sustained force. This is not including the forerunner weapons and broadsword skrike, which would happen to the core.
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How many hundreds of kilos? (I have to convert to tonnes to make the comparison accurate)
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F=ma. I solved for 100. They might be 200 or 300, depending on material, as.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 9/3/2015 2:06:04 PMOk then times my earlier solution by 9 (900 kilos per tonne and you solved for 100) 100,000* 40,000= 4,000,000,000 newtons *9 for weight conversion Your number should be roughly 100,000x at least smaller
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Edited by CybrWyteTygr: 9/3/2015 2:44:28 PMI also took durability and recovery into account. Nothing is invincible, and the death star is nowhere near as close. Also, the forerunner weapon Composer bypasses every shield (to my knowledge), making your ray shield useless. Either way, it is a disintagratory ray, so it would wear the shield away until a pop, in which it would bypass the hull, assuming the shield does stop it. Even then, prometheans could teleport inside, in which the shit aim of stormtroopers combined with weaker weapons would kill.
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Forerunner Composer is designed to convert biological beings into data to achieve a form of immortality. It's not a disintegration weapon.
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[quote]Forerunner Composer is designed to convert biological beings into data to achieve a form of immortality. It's not a disintegration weapon.[/quote] It is slightly disintagratory. It just also scans the object and converts it to data. That is why clothing and held objects were also effected.
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I know, my point is that it's not this disintegration death ray.
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It for people in New Phoenix. [spoiler]sorry, I just had to.[/spoiler]
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Disintegration only works on matter not energy sry but yea On teleportation death star is segmented, they close off the block until reinforcements get there or simply cent toxin into the atmo. Idk what alloy the DS uses exactly so cant really say on durability.
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The prometheans are technology. Plus they just teleport to the other segments.
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Emp, swu has countless emp weapons; A e11 stun setting ALSO works on tech (its an em pulse wave)
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The plasma pistol is an EMP weapon. It only takes down the shield. Forerunner tech is EMP-resistant, as only shields are effective.
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Plasma IS NOT emp. Plasma is highly charged and super heated gas its not an energy field or pure energy charge but an energized state of matter.
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The plasma creates a strong EMP. This is because plasma is a superheated gas in which electrons are ripped from the atom.
